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That's how I pronounce it, when I think of how expensive it'll be, I end up calling them "crabby" lake...

That's probably how it'll end up, crabby or 'crappy_lake', have never physically heard anyone pronounce by name.biggrin.gif

It would be great if they made the CPU line the most powerful ever & have consumers waiting like with the GeForce 1080/1070 cards, if they could get 4.5GHz stock on the CPU before Turbo, it'll be a sure fire success. On the other hand, CPU dies can't be shrank lower & lower & expect the same or better results, so am not optimistic that a more powerful model will be released.

And if not, then what's the point in creating a new line to begin with? Haswell had a great run of about 2.5 years & these are still selling. Can't Intel settle down long enough to please the enthusiast, a huge part of their customer base?smile.gif

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That's probably how it'll end up, crabby or 'crappy_lake', have never physically heard anyone pronounce by name.biggrin.gif

It would be great if they made the CPU line the most powerful ever & have consumers waiting like with the GeForce 1080/1070 cards, if they could get 4.5GHz stock on the CPU before Turbo, it'll be a sure fire success. On the other hand, CPU dies can't be shrank lower & lower & expect the same or better results, so am not optimistic that a more powerful model will be released.

And if not, then what's the point in creating a new line to begin with? Haswell had a great run of about 2.5 years & these are still selling. Can't Intel settle down long enough to please the enthusiast, a huge part of their customer base?smile.gif

Cat

Not sure how likely an increase in clockspeed would be, but that would be nice, especially for the i3/Pentium lineup. I have some unhealthy faith in Kaby-Crappy-Crabby-Patty-Baby Lake, since Intel has shown us in the past that IPC and clockspeed isn't everything. I just hope it's at least decent.
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This always makes me question, is intel holding back or have performance jumps gotten difficult these days? and will AMD encounter the same issues?
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This always makes me question, is intel holding back or have performance jumps gotten difficult these days? and will AMD encounter the same issues?
I think they're prioritizing perf/w over total performance, because servers and mobile are bigger than desktop gaming. Hopefully Zen pushes performance enough to make it a point of competition again.
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This always makes me question, is intel holding back or have performance jumps gotten difficult these days? and will AMD encounter the same issues?

Intel isn't holding back, the performance jump for emulation between Ivy-E and HW-E was massive. They just need something else than silicon.
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It's a good tactic to justify an upgrade to your spouse,

I don't know babe, I went to replace the thermal paste and it was like this. Now it won't start.

You already lost her by the time you got to replacing thermal paste and are good to upgrade your platform. thumb.gif
Kinda what happened to me the other day, went to clean the cool lab liquid pro off my 3770k, and i had my corsair h100 tucked behind it's tubing so itd be out of the way, and it came untucked and smashed down on the motherboard socket and bent about 30 pins..."sorry honey, I broke my computer, it's time for skylake now"
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Kinda what happened to me the other day, went to clean the cool lab liquid pro off my 3770k, and i had my corsair h100 tucked behind it's tubing so itd be out of the way, and it came untucked and smashed down on the motherboard socket and bent about 30 pins..."sorry honey, I broke my computer, it's time for skylake now"

Got to do what you've got to do to feed the addiction.

For the guys here that are single, then one day you'll find out that there aren't many women around that will be happy once they realize you plan on spending hundreds to thousands a year on PC hardware. It just don't work out like that. Also, they tend to be the ones around when all your crap gets delivered. They'll know. biggrin.gif
     
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I should have known that was coming cause I've started itching for that 6700K based ITX built with a 1080...
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Got to do what you've got to do to feed the addiction.

For the guys here that are single, then one day you'll find out that there aren't many women around that will be happy once they realize you plan on spending hundreds to thousands a year on PC hardware. It just don't work out like that. Also, they tend to be the ones around when all your crap gets delivered. They'll know. biggrin.gif

Oh, that must be why I've been 'cut off' for the last five years.biggrin.gif

Well, after over 25 years with the same spouse, it doesn't matter anyway.biggrin.gif

BTW, she has her 'hobbies' I don't like either, I grew tired of hearing a granddaughter screaming & having her way before I began to have an interest in computers. So she can have her interests, and leave me the heck alone with mine.biggrin.gif

Yet 'kaby_lake' isn't in the plans, a 4790K on a Z97 MB, with the OS running on a NVMe SSD is, with a 1070 for when I get a 4K monitor.thumb.gif

Even Linux Mint can run on these ultra fast SSD's, and the 4790K will leave 'kaby_lake' in a dust storm, probably w/out having to OC.biggrin.gif

Probably the majority of these will be sold in notebooks, Chromebooks that doesn't have a true SSD, and maybe even a smartphone version. Desktop PC's, I don't know, prebuilts are already running out of the ears in OEM warehouses, as well as B&M & online ones, don't see much in that market, it's time to tighten inventory a bit. Plus self builders will likely avoid the release, especially with 3rd through 6th gen CPU's widely available, the market is saturated with 1150 & 1151 hardware. Intel will have to perform something huge to get consumers to change, I don't think that even 4.0GHz CPU's will cut it, what's going to be the gain? Unless Intel goes back to fluxless solder, that may make a difference, surely by now they've heard a lot of displeasure over a $10 cheapskate job of building CPU's. Not even AMD has sank to this low.

For the prices of these CPU's one deserves the right technique, no one dropping over $300 for a CPU should have to be concerned about internal thermal paste drying out. Under the heatsink yes, yet inside of the CPU, no! Intel is building these deliberately to fail at some point, some may not make it far past the 3 year warranty, which I'm sure is around the bend for some of these models. Actually, had I done any research before pulling the trigger, would never had purchased the 4790K, knowing I'm going to have to fix Intel's less than $10 proper job for them. Thermal paste eventually dries out, all of it, no exceptions. They could had at least used liquid metal, which doesn't dry out over a few years.

If kaby_lake is properly manufactured the way a CPU should be, and Intel offers a model & frequency for every budget, maybe it'll be a success. If not, the only ones who'll buy & not pay attention are those who purchases prebuilts.biggrin.gif

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Now if kaby_lake is the introduction of the technology below, then we're getting somewhere.thumb.gif

https://newsroom.intel.com/news-releases/intel-and-micron-produce-breakthrough-memory-technology/

Intel & Micron has been working on this joint project for some time, hopefully we'll know more in the upcoming months. If so, this wouldn't be just another 'i' gen, would be the beginnings of an entirely different one. Discussion thread with more info below.smile.gif

http://www.geek.com/chips/new-intel-storage-is-1000-times-faster-than-your-ssd-1629656/

It's really time for Intel to rock the status quo, and this would be the perfect time to pull the trigger!biggrin.gif

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