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post #191 of 199
So what happened to the promised land that's a year past due as I linked above?

Or was that supposed to be a cruel joke article?mad.gif

If so, it's probably the cruelest joke that Intel (& Micron) pulled off. Like the article stated, due in 2015, my calendar shows mid-2016.

We need true next-gen components, all we're getting are refined (watered down) refreshes of the previous gen.smile.gif

Cat
post #192 of 199
So i def just went x99 / BW-E... screw it.

Was gonna hold out but this is ridiculous and frankly- i like the upgrade pathways i'll have with X99
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Well this is great my 2500k still runs perfectly fine. But if I wait till next year I will have whatever comes after Kaby lake. I'm considering a late 2017 build and finally upgrading to some fast DDR 4 and at that point my 2500k will have skipped 6 generations and i can move into a 8600k or something
post #194 of 199
Might have to jump on Kaby Lake. Was planning on holding off til Cannonlake for the node but my Z68 motherboard is starting to die.
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North of 5 GHz on air...? smile.gif
post #196 of 199
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Originally Posted by cat1092 View Post

To hack with webcams, marriage, and all of that, I want to see what Intel promised what would had been delivered in 2015. This was an official press release by Intel.

https://newsroom.intel.com/press-kits/introducing-intel-optane-technology-bringing-3d-xpoint-memory-to-storage-and-memory-products/

It's a year later & still no promised land.mad.gif

Micron was also in on this, so these could had been 'joke' posts to amuze customers, if so, I didn't share in the humor. If they're going to deliver this high octane performance, how about bringing it on with kaby_lake, or stop the posting of it. The technology is already a year late (supposedly introduced in 2015), yet we've not seen it.

If by chance this goes pan out and not a very cruel joke, no one will care about performance CPU's, these will deliver Web pages in nanoseconds. Can one imagine how fast that would be? kaby_lake is the prime time for this new release, we're due something beyond the usual DDR3/4 era anyway. biggrin.gif

Like a new era.

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Xpoint has been available to Enterprise since 2015. If you want it that badly upgrade to a Fortune 100 server farm and you'll have access.
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post #197 of 199
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Xpoint has been available to Enterprise since 2015. If you want it that badly upgrade to a Fortune 100 server farm and you'll have access.

Point made!thumb.gif

Only in the Intel & Micron ads, it didn't specify it would be for Fortune 100 use only, so figured the tech would be available for the masses. So it looks like I'll be waiting until 2022-2024 to grab an off-lease one on eBay for $200 or so.biggrin.gif

These corporations should make it clear in their ads of the targeted users of their 'new world' technology. That it would only be available for the wealthy. Of course I knew the price tag would be higher, on the other hand they've later launched ads for upcoming SSD technology & we now have these choices on Newegg & other sites.smile.gif

So by the time we consumers gets this technology, it'll be 10 years old & much watered down from what those Fortune 100 corporations are running today.biggrin.gif

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post #198 of 199
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Originally Posted by Oj010 View Post

North of 5 GHz on air...? smile.gif

If it is, then count me in!thumb.gif

Yet don't count on it. One will be lucky to see a 4.2GHz quad core version of this CPU, and that would be breaking a record before Turbo Boost kicks in.biggrin.gif

4.5GHz will be more realistic, and I believe doable. If AMD would only introduce an 8 core (really a quad w/4 logical cores) running at 5.0GHz, then Intel would have no choice other than stop holding back. They are doing so because as long as AMD isn't riding their backs close, there's no need to to ramp things up. AMD needs to make Intel compete, then they will.biggrin.gif

On the other hand, Intel 8 core CPU's are truly just that, with 8 H/T cores. Only thing is, I've never understood why for $600-1,000, these runs at less than 4.0GHz stock, sometimes far less. I'd never give that much for a CPU, even if wealthy, for one that doesn't run at 4.0Ghz or higher. Intel knows that overclocking voids the warranty, so they're intentionally holding back performance on these very expensive CPU's, any plus is that these (plus the 6 core models) doesn't double as a GPU. Yet at least one can get a 6 core for about $50 more than the i7-4790K/6700K, the million dollar question being, are these any better? Sure if overclocked, but how long can one run one of these at say, 4.5Ghz before thermal meltdown?

I'd wager the life wouldn't be that of a traditional quad running at 4.0GHz, if pushed to match the performance of one.biggrin.gif

That's what Intel is banking on, and why if purchasing a six core or larger would go AMD.smile.gif

Hopefully more details about kaby_lake will become available soon, we don't know enough to say if their top quad will be as powerful (in GHz) as current offerings. If not, there's little reason to take the plunge. Plus as stated previously, Intel needs to get more out of their releases, for example, the Haswell series has had a fantastic run & it's not over with by a longshot. The 5th gen may as well had not been released, and we're just into the 6th gen release. Intel needs to milk as much profit out of each release before introducing another, by that meaning allow retail & online stock levels to drop low before shipment. Intel still makes cash on every CPU sold, including retail packaged computers. So with the 6th gen settling in, it's good to know what's up coming & begin production, but let stock levels dip well below 10% before releasing the next gen batches for retail sale (PC OEM's will get theirs first). This is a win-win for all.biggrin.gif

Think about it, Haswell CPU's has been on the market for over 3 years & there's warehouses still full of these & pricing stable, though inching upwards. That's a great run that neither Sandy nor Ivy Bridge had, though there's some Ivy Bridge CPU's of limited models available still. For that matter, the 4th gen of the 'i' series has been the most successful to date. Even my semi-retired i7-4770 is still listed as a Top 5 Common CPU on the Passmark site (actually #4 on the list). That's amazing for a 3 year old CPU to be in that position. The 6700K shows on the overall list, though still not in the Top 10 Common models.

They should try & make a similar run with Skylake, releasing kaby_lake too fast will only result in wasted R&D on Intel's side. And hopefully the days of substituting thermal paste for fluxless solder are forever gone. This doesn't help Intel image, to cheap out on this detail for a $300+ boxed CPU.biggrin.gif

Cat
post #199 of 199
I'm not talking about stock, I'm talking about air overclocks. The kind that Sandy Bridge guys miss.
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