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So that chart shows that an unlocked kaby lake won't come around until Skylake E(X) gets here? Makes it even easier to wait for Zen.
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post #72 of 199
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That's kind of my confusion. If it's not a HEDT chip why is it in the HEDT category on the map?

Because it looks like Intel is going to start calling unlocked 4 cores HEDT, even if they are on the mainstream socket.

Perhaps I'm being naively optimistic but Intel, even with their price gouging, has never backtracked like that (as far as I'm aware). The 10 core chip, while outrageously priced, is something they haven't offered in the consumer (non-xeon) lineup. This is two consecutive years they've upped the core count in the HEDT line. The first time they did it and kept the $1000 price tag. The second time they got drunk but the hardware specs did go up, not down.
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All that I care about is performance, some of you dudes get too deep into the other stuff. complaining about this company, that company, some act as if they are banging for whatever company that they pray to the alter of .If I don't like something, I just move on. some of you act as if you are mind controlled into buying whatever new product that is released. it's really not that serious.really though, were you actually in the market for a 10 core chip that you KNEW would cost at least a grand or more? seems to me like you want all of the very good stuff, but, don't want to pay the price, which, I can understand, but, it doesn't work that way. I want the 10 core chip myself, but, no way am I spending that much on a cpu. I am not going to bash intel though,...the decision is ALL mine, not theirs..

I dont think everyone is interested in the 10 cores though, but what direct price point replacement will do is to push the 6900K and the rest down to reasonable level, they didnt do that, so that is why it upset people.
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post #74 of 199
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So that chart shows that an unlocked kaby lake won't come around until Skylake E(X) gets here? Makes it even easier to wait for Zen.


Basically Intel has nothing offer to counter Zen but they probably predict there isn't a need do...


Lets hope Zen prove them wrong.
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Basically Intel has nothing offer to counter Zen
?

how about everything they have out now/is coming out in 2016 ?
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All that I am going to say is, I hope that Zen turn out to be a as good as many are expecting because any competition is a good thing. if AMD can bring some 8 core, 16 thread goodness at a reasonable price to the masses, that would be a great thing . I just hope that they don't pull a FX-9590 for $900 nutty....... thumb.gif in all seriousness, I wonder how many chips they sold at that price?
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All that I am going to say is, I hope that Zen turn out to be a as good as many are expecting because any competition is a good thing. if AMD can bring some 8 core, 16 thread goodness at a reasonable price to the masses, that would be a great thing . I just hope that they don't pull a FX-9590 for $900 nutty....... thumb.gif in all seriousness, I wonder how many chips they sold at that price?

The drive for competition is what push advances forward while keeping the price in check.

Yes the pc market sorely need competition...
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Guys, guys, guys, lol. It's like you don't even read the news.

We're on Process - Architecture - Optimization. The Optimization is the new one, right? So...you realize, for years, Intel has been doing "Architecture" improvements and that's lauded 3-7% increases per generation.

Optimization is EVEN SMALLER than Architecture. That's obvious, right? Expect absolutely 0% changes to IPC.
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That's kind of my confusion. If it's not a HEDT chip why is it in the HEDT category on the map?

Let's guess. It will be 6 core that would be used in normal MBs?
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All that I am going to say is, I hope that Zen turn out to be a as good as many are expecting because any competition is a good thing. if AMD can bring some 8 core, 16 thread goodness at a reasonable price to the masses, that would be a great thing . I just hope that they don't pull a FX-9590 for $900 nutty....... thumb.gif in all seriousness, I wonder how many chips they sold at that price?

This is kind of why my hopes for zen are low. Recent history has shown, when the competition raises prices so will AMD.

They went nutty with the FX-9590

Even with shrinking market share all of AMD's top teir cards after the 290x have followed the pricing structure of the 780ti
The 295x2 went of the deep end chasing the titan Z

If zen is an 8c/16t that is in anyway competitive to the 6900K, then I fully expect it to carry a $1,000 price tag at launch.

IF that happens, what's Intel's motivation to drop it's prices? Nvidia only got more bold with it's pricing structure when AMD matched their pricing structure. My pessimist side says, "don't expect anything to change, even if Zen is performance competitive".
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Let's guess. It will be 6 core that would be used in normal MBs?

LGA1151 won't support 6 cores. The only way kabylake mainstream gets more cores is if Intel changes the socket.
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