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Is there are reason it does this?

Yeah your card is sending 2560x1440 pixels to a 3840x2160 grid. It's the same ratio but it still looks bad. I just did this. I sold my 980Ti early to not lose so much money and I'm gaming on a GTX 950. I turned it down from 1440 to 1080 and it was a disaster.
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can we just get a large format 4k >75Hz and ~1ms response time? don't get me wrong i love my 40" 4k monitor, but i would love to be able to play more games on it without going crazy from the input lag as i am used to my 1080 144hz 1ms panel.

There are PLENTY of games out there that can be run at 4k >>60fps with a single 980 or 980ti.
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can we just get a large format 4k >75Hz and ~1ms response time? don't get me wrong i love my 40" 4k monitor, but i would love to be able to play more games on it without going crazy from the input lag as i am used to my 1080 144hz 1ms panel.

There are PLENTY of games out there that can be run at 4k >>60fps with a single 980 or 980ti.

I believe Asus and Acer both have 32" 4K panels that run 60Hz and G-Sync. I don't recall what their input lag is though.
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Well, that means no Gaming 4K 144Hz monitor for me, not until we finally can achieve this natively.

I'd want to go 4K to eliminate as much blur as possible, and 144Hz to further eliminate blur, but in order to do this I have to put up with added Blur from DSC DP 1.4 and possible input lag?

I think 4K 144Hz isn't ready, or at least not up to the high standard of the enthusiast market, 3440x1440 165Hz should be the next step in the Gaming Monitor ladder, UltraWide is awesome.
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It think it's no sooner than Titan Volta that we'll see a single GPU run 4K in the same fps range as Titan X runs 1440p, and that is around 100 fps but nowehere near the 144Hz.
4K 21:9 100Hz would be better.
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Yeah your card is sending 2560x1440 pixels to a 3840x2160 grid. It's the same ratio but it still looks bad. I just did this. I sold my 980Ti early to not lose so much money and I'm gaming on a GTX 950. I turned it down from 1440 to 1080 and it was a disaster.

Set the GPU to do the scaling from the control panel and the quality should be fine. I can run 1440P and 1080P with great quality on my 4K TV with GPU scaling, but Playstation 4 games see some ugly artifacting and other issues due to the TV having to do the scaling.
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So you don't see the point of higher clarity overall? Plenty of videos are 4k now as well online and it's a huge difference even while streaming. Every detail for every application being crisp is a huge plus as well and the real estate of snapping what is the equivalent of 4x 1080p windows at once is very helpful.. Also 'pinpoint' details are great when playing online games, especially games with large map sizes like Battlefield 4. Objects that were either jaggie messes or too hard to pick up on are now able to defined as a player or a plant, etc at distance with ease. I've been on 4k since December 2014 and cannot go back at this point.

I specifically state there there are very tangible uses for 4K. In my opinion, however, gaming does not benefit from 4K as much as other content. In addition, TVs benefit more than monitors since the DPI is more with the latter. In terms of video content, a 4K TV is FAR better suited for that. I don't know if you have seen an LG OLED 4k HDR TV... but yeah... there is no comparison. For a cinematic experience, size matters. In terms of multitasking, I don't feel 24-27 inches is enough to make that worth while. 32 would be ideal. BF4 does benefit when sniping, but in motion, I personally don't see an advantage.

In addition, I am a firm believer of better pixels>more pixels.
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Not everybody has garbage eyesight. I like my 28" 4k Samsung, its nice and smooth. Admittedly when I got it it needed a 290X and 295x2 to keep the frames up... but its nice and smooth to my eyes.

27" sounds a little compact but if your monitor is just beyond your keyboard it's right at the point where you can perceive all of the screen between your blind spots.

I can see just fine thank you very much. Again, maybe for RTS games or staring scenery in The Witcher 3. But for games in motion, I personally, don't see enough benefit in 4K.


Aaand all this is leaving out cost...

It really does depend on the game, but if you can use higher resolution it can significantly affect gameplay.

My prime example right now is Just Cause 3, you're doing most of your combat from a distance, just bumping up from 1920x1080 to 2560x1440 makes a huge difference in the detail of enemy character models and explosions, etc...
You can actually headshot everyone in a jeep before they get to you, and helicopter pilots too.
Staying at lower resolutions that sort of gameplay is either impractical or impossible, right now it all feels very fluid, and if we go to higher resolutions then you can actually start to implement real long range sniping and camouflage.
DOOM on the other hand doesn't need a lot of resolution, but it's also 90% close quarters. In Just Cause 3 I spend a lot of time just looking at the mountain vista, that sort of large scale environment can only get better with more resolution.

And then if we're talking about getting rid of jaggies, you need 8K, but I don't expect that to be practical for a very long time, 4K is the sweet spot.
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can we just get a large format 4k >75Hz and ~1ms response time? don't get me wrong i love my 40" 4k monitor, but i would love to be able to play more games on it without going crazy from the input lag as i am used to my 1080 144hz 1ms panel.

There are PLENTY of games out there that can be run at 4k >>60fps with a single 980 or 980ti.

Response times are good enough. Your issue is the input lag itself.
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This post is why people call you a fanboy. You couldn't take the 20 seconds to Google and find out that Pascal supports DP1.4. Which is funny, because considering how much you were in that GTX 1080 thread, you should know it 10 times over by now. You really aren't fooling anyone anymore.
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this prototype is really cool, but I want this to lower the price of PG279Q

probably wont happen though frown.gif
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Too bad it isn't twice the size, but it is to be expected for a regular monitor. Asus told us last year (or the year before?) that they were working on a 120Hz UHD monitor, and here it is. I really hope some of these Korean companies follow suit with the >40" UHD monitors soon since there are bound to be more UHD panels that support 120Hz instead of only the LC550EQD-FGF4. I think I remember Sharp making another 39.5" SVA that supported 120Hz too.

Anyway, I can't wait to see what DP 1.3/4 brings. After 4 or so years, GPUs are finally going on a smaller node, AMD might actually competitive again in the CPU space, and it seems like their upcoming cards are going to be great hits. VR is finally taking off, OLED is real, though it needs to be improved before desktop use is safe, new display standards will allow for very nice refresh rates, and we're getting HDR for a very nice dynamic range on supported media and games. I think 2017/18 will be the golden age of technology biggrin.gif
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IPS is a big no ! no ! for me (infamous glow), correct this before doing 144hz and whatnot .
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