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Is there an official reason why Asus gimped I/O on the Edition 10?

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Why do manufacturers think it's OK to remove USB ports with every generation? It's even worse with the Z170 boards...

Hardly gimped, especially considering you've got two Type C connectors there. It's called progress, chap.
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Maybe gimped is the wrong word, but still 12 USBs vs 8+2 type C's? Those type C's make more sense on the front of a case, IMO.
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Maybe gimped is the wrong word, but still 12 USBs vs 8+2 type C's? Those type C's make more sense on the front of a case, IMO.

There are still 10. Not that bad.
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Maybe gimped is the wrong word, but still 12 USBs vs 8+2 type C's?

Need room for the second RJ-45.
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To be honest, I wish that they had a full backplate along the back of the motherboard, kind of like the ROG Maximus Formula series. It would add rigidity, especially for heavy GPUs and CPU coolers. The heaviest GPUs now weigh in excess of 1.5 kg.


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Is there an official reason why Asus gimped I/O on the Edition 10? Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

VS

Why do manufacturers think it's OK to remove USB ports with every generation? It's even worse with the Z170 boards...

This is a personal pet peeve of mine. Perhaps it is irrational (or perhaps it is because I have a collection of USB peripherals), but I always feel ripped off when a high end board cuts features out.

It makes no sense when a board costs hundreds of dollars to save a few dollars on cutting USB ports and controllers (which are cheap compared to the price of the board). Might as well load the rear IO panel for the enthusiast that likes it. The type of person with the budget for this board is more likely to have money for other peripherals.

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Need room for the second RJ-45.


I beg to differ. It is perfectly possible to have 12x USB ports and 2 RJ-45s. It has been done before in production motherboards. ASUS just needs to get rid of that ROG link and put it somewhere else (like on that front panel accessory) and there would be room to spare.

MSI X99A XPower for example






2 USB 2.0 + 8 USB 3.0 + 2 USB 3.1 for a total of 12, along with an i218V and a i210AT LAN. I just that some of the 8 were USB 3.1 (they are controlled by an Asmedia 1074 versus an Asmedia 1142 on the USB 3.1). Another option is to use Intel's Alpine Ridge controllers. It uses an Intel AC 7260 as wifi (as opposed to Asus, which I believe uses Broadcom wireless - IIRC Rampage V Extreme shipped with Broadcom BCM94360HMB, which I'd imagine would be similar on this Edition 10 board).

I wonder if 14 USB ports could be possible with the area where it says "OC" covered up with 2 more ports. Maybe even 15 with one above the "clear CMOS" button.

Unfortunately, MSI also cut USB ports in its X99A XPower Titanium. mad.gif
Edited by CrazyElf - 7/7/16 at 8:13pm
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Where is type c connection on that msi?
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Where is type c connection on that msi?

Never to be seen.
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Type C is still too new to justify cutting regular USBs off high end boards. How many of us actually have a device that even has it? Besides the odd smartphone maybe. And how do you justify other motherboards, especially Z170 now cutting USB ports with every iteration? Some of those boards don't even have a Type-C to make up for it. Some boards are shipping with 5 or less USB ports. And with most cases only having 2 on the front these days, users will be forced to buy USB hubs. Maybe you guys don't care as much about this, but to me it is inexcusable on these high dollar boards.
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Oh a conspiracy, fantastic.


Yeah i figured you'd say something like that. Tell that to Saintrusky and the couple hundred others whose boards fried their $1,000 CPUs without any warning or fault of their own and were told by ASUS that "there is no issue whatsoever, it's your fault the CPU died we refuse to warranty it" etc.. and NEVER owned up to it even after there were FAR more cases than any reasonable person would consider coincidental. You can call it a conspiracy if you want, but it only shows your ignorance on the facts surrounding the issue, especially since you don't even realize what issue i'm talking about in the first place.

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I need a little hand-holding when it comes to PCI-E usage on this board. Someone explained it to me earlier in this thread but I'm still having a hard time wrapping my head around it.

Here are the expansion cards I plan to install:

1 - GTX 1080 (GPU)
1 - GTX 750 Ti (PPU)
1 - Asus Sound Card (PCI-E x1)

I'm assuming the 1080 should occupy the first PCI-E x16 and the 750 Ti should take the 3rd. Should the sound card go into the board's x1 slot? This would put it directly below the 750 Ti which is not as ideal as using the x4 slot which would put it above. If I were to eventually install a m.2 drive would I compromise anything if the x4 slot held a x1 device? I believe using the x4 AND m.2 results in a lane reduction. Is that correct?

Assume the CPU has all 40 lanes.

Installing a sound card would be pointless on this board; it has its own External Amp and DAC combo that is FAR better than 90% of ASUS sound cards thats bundled free with the board. I'd just sell the sound card if i were you. Reviews of the board have said that the Hi-Fi amp/dac combo is even better than audiophile grade equipment like the ~$250 Schiit Magni + Schiit Modi external Amp and DAC, or the O2 + ODAC combo; (and i agree with them having owned several of those type of amp and dac for my Sennheiser HD700 300ohm headphones) both of which are considered far and above better than pretty much every ASUS sound card. Plus the supremefx hi-fi doesn't take up any PCI lanes since it isn't installed in a pci-e slot (plugs into your usb header on the board and mounts in a 5.25" bay.

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Is your RAM on the QVL by any chance? TweakTown just released an awesome Asus Rampage V Edition 10 review and he ran 32GB 3200Mhz CAS 14 by enabling the XMP.


http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/7764/asus-rog-rampage-extreme-10-intel-x99-motherboard-review/index.html


I believe it is; its Dominator Platinum 2666mhz C15 DDR4. I typically run it at 3000mhz 15 17 17 35 T2 whenever possible; pushed it down to 2800mhz recently to see if that was effecting the 6800K overclocking. Might just drop it to SPL level (2400mhz C15) just to remove it from the equation altogether.
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Type C is still too new to justify cutting regular USBs off high end boards. How many of us actually have a device that even has it? Besides the odd smartphone maybe. And how do you justify other motherboards, especially Z170 now cutting USB ports with every iteration? Some of those boards don't even have a Type-C to make up for it. Some boards are shipping with 5 or less USB ports. And with most cases only having 2 on the front these days, users will be forced to buy USB hubs. Maybe you guys don't care as much about this, but to me it is inexcusable on these high dollar boards.
It's not that new. A lot of new smartphones/devices use Type-C. I'd rather have a little less USB's that I'll probably never use and have two type-c's.
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