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Originally Posted by ondoy View Post

i currently have a schiit stack (magni and modi with 770 pro 250ohm)
the onboard audio really is very good, compared to a schiit stack it's about the same well at least for me...
i bet if you're blindfolded you can't tell the difference...tongue.gif
Sssshhh! Don't tell that to audiophiles. They have better hearing than bats do it seems.
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Hey everyone,

I also got mine few days ago. Currently gathering other components and there is something I would like to ask to experienced users.

I will be using this mb with 1080 sli, 6950x, intel 750 pcie x4 ssd, samsung 950 pro m.2 and I also have an elgato hd60 pro pcie x1 but I had suspicions about losing 2nd gpu performance if I use all these pcie lanes. As far as I know, m.2 lanes already shares bandwidth with x8 pcie lane and there is Intel with pcie x4. If I also add Elgato do I have enough pcie lanes for using sli x16/x16? How much performance loss should I expect if I go down to x16/x8 for gpus?

I can still refund Elgato hd60 pro and get a hd60s if I get a performance hit.

This is my first extreme build actually and I could really use some experience.

Thanks.
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1. I highly doubt you or I can tell the difference between your ODAC and the DAC that comes with the Rampage. You can guess all you want about what parts it has and such but I'm positive that it's nothing but quality stuff. TweakTown rated the audio excellent and had nothing but good things to say about it.

2. This motherboard does look amazing to me and a ton of other folks. Even with the LED's disabled it looks amazing. The board has stability and functionality so that's covered with ease. BTW, I've been building rigs for 20 years and I've yet to see a board that looks as good as this.

3. I plan on using this board for a couple of years and then stashing it away. It sucks that this board isn't in your price range and that you feel the need to trash one of the best motherboards ever made. Enjoy your ugly Gigabyte board though. thumb.gif

1. I highly doubt you could not tell the difference between an ODAC with O2 headphone amplifier and the gimmicky audio implementation on the Rampage V Edition 10. Do you really want to base your conclusion on Tweaktowns review? They don't review audio equipment especially Hifi equipment and expecting on board to sound as good as a O2+ODAC is just no words to describe it.

2. A ton of other folks? The only ones I see rushing to buy this motherboard are consumers who are easily swayed by marketing techniques. What does this offer versus a Rampage V which is almost cheaper by 50%? Nothing besides gimmicks and some marketing points and a higher price premium.

3. Who said it isn't in my price range? Assumptions don't contribute anything and detract from the conversation. Affording a motherboard and choosing not to purchase it are two different matters. If you had read and reread I am speaking out because ASUS seems to think that rebranding a motherboard and charging almost double is acceptable. For reference the Gigabyte X58a-ud9 was at a lower price point and Gigabyte has no longer pursued such ridiculous price schemes. Also I never said which motherboard I purchased so you are making another assumption again. I merely provided a reference for flagship prices. Instead you have chosen to insult another motherboard manufacturer because they don't charge as high as the Edition 10. As for it being one of the best motherboards ever built I hardly would agree with that. ASUS is cutting corners and costs wherever they can on their X99 refresh and while it's not necessarily attributed to the Edition 10 they are losing market share and also popularity (ASUS no longer holds the top spot in motherboards either).

4. You still haven't countered about Shamino and other overclockers leaving ASUS. Once Shamino left ASUS the Rampage IV Black Edition was the last best motherboard they had. Afterwards it's been rushed HEDT releases. Compare the overclocker lineup with other manufacturers as a reference wnd see who is working where.

I don't see convincing points or any real justification here.I am not afraid to speak out if a manufacturer is price gouging or using consumers as a cash cow but from what I am reading consumers readily accept being overcharged for a name and RGB. This motherboard will depreciate while other manufacturers introduce more models for Broadwell-E as a refresh. How will ASUS then justify it's price point against EVGA, MSI, Gigabyte and others? 10 years is the most they got out of their ROG lineup now especially for HEDT. I can't say I will miss it at all especially after countless builds including ASUS. If you think I am alone in speaking out there are others who think the Edition 10 is just as ridiculous.
Edited by 45nm - 7/9/16 at 10:30pm
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Originally Posted by 45nm View Post

1. I highly doubt you could not tell the difference between an ODAC with O2 headphone amplifier and the gimmicky audio implementation on the Rampage V Edition 10. Do you really want to base your conclusion on Tweaktowns review? They don't review audio equipment especially Hifi equipment and expecting on board to sound as good as a O2+ODAC is just no words to describe it.

2. A ton of other folks? The only ones I see rushing to buy this motherboard are consumers who are easily swayed by marketing techniques. What does this offer versus a Rampage V which is almost cheaper by 50%? Nothing besides gimmicks and some marketing points and a higher price premium.

3. Who said it isn't in my price range? Assumptions don't contribute anything and detract from the conversation. Affording a motherboard and choosing not to purchase it are two different matters. If you had read and reread I am speaking out because ASUS seems to think that rebranding a motherboard and charging almost double is acceptable. For reference the Gigabyte X58a-ud9 was at a lower price point and Gigabyte has no longer pursued such ridiculous price schemes. Also I never said which motherboard I purchased so you are making another assumption again. I merely provided a reference for flagship prices. Instead you have chosen to insult another motherboard manufacturer because they don't charge as high as the Edition 10. As for it being one of the best motherboards ever built I hardly would agree with that. ASUS is cutting corners and costs wherever they can on their X99 refresh and while it's not necessarily attributed to the Edition 10 they are losing market share and also popularity (ASUS no longer holds the top spot in motherboards either).

4. You still haven't countered about Shamino and other overclockers leaving ASUS. Once Shamino left ASUS the Rampage IV Black Edition was the last best motherboard they had. Afterwards it's been rushed HEDT releases. Compare the overclocker lineup with other manufacturers as a reference wnd see who is working where.

I don't see convincing points or any real justification here.I am not afraid to speak out if a manufacturer is price gouging or using consumers as a cash cow but from what I am reading consumers readily accept being overcharged for a name and RGB. This motherboard will depreciate while other manufacturers introduce more models for Broadwell-E as a refresh. How will ASUS then justify it's price point against EVGA, MSI, Gigabyte and others? 10 years is the most they got out of their ROG lineup now especially for HEDT. I can't say I will miss it at all especially after countless builds including ASUS. If you think I am alone in speaking out there are others who think the Edition 10 is just as ridiculous.
Are you really that salty about the price? My goodness! Us fine folks don't have to justify anything. We get it, this board isn't for you. Why not post about your feelings in a blog?
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1. I highly doubt you could not tell the difference between an ODAC with O2 headphone amplifier and the gimmicky audio implementation on the Rampage V Edition 10. Do you really want to base your conclusion on Tweaktowns review? They don't review audio equipment especially Hifi equipment and expecting on board to sound as good as a O2+ODAC is just no words to describe it. .

He's not talking about the onboard audio, there is a 5.25" bay dac that it comes with. After using it with several pairs of my cans I would place it somewhere between my xonar essence STX I and II or some of my schiit audio equipment in the 200 dollar range (modi2+Magni2) that I own. Judging by the internal hardware it's some sort of configuration of the strix raid dlx not exactly the same how ever. and there seems to be some sort of phase step for amplification from what I can tell, I'm not yet sure I like it, but it's not detrimental to the sound quality.

Can power every pair of cans I have as well

Id say the value is there for the DAC/Amp, obviously not as much as some of my more expensive equipment, but at that point your getting into audiophile shopping instead of just getting something decent for your computer which if your tight with money, supreme audio is not your hobby to take part in.


ASUS needs to pack in better customer support with their boards ^_^
Edited by saintruski - 7/9/16 at 11:26pm
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Well the msi bing bang is also the same price as the rampage edition 10 and that msi comes with nothing special or looks nothing special

Price is nor bad for 10th anniversary

Msi £ 499
Rampage v extreme £402
Rampage v edition £469
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I want the board just because it's blacked out, has tasteful armour, USB 3.1 Type C, dual NIC's, a neat yet tasteful circuit design, and RGB LEDs if I so want the lighting. As for the DAC, the ES9018M2M is at least better than Realtek's 1150 setup that was around on previous boards, although not everyone will use it as it goes into a 5.25" bay, or they already have a good solution for such.

I don't really care about the built-in wireless or RGB headers, but I can see where they'd be useful for some people.
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superbiiz is selling at a better price right now
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hey the little piece of protective film on IO shield with the tab.... how the hell do you get it off and how do you know you go t it all. I think its a tab and a thin strip let me know
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I am in the same boat too, a little piece of film left in the slot of back panel shield

I have spent so much time trying to catch it using toothpick, credit card, string, needle but no way, it is impossible to pull it off

It seems I have to disassemble this IO

But from other side it is in the angle where there are not LEDs so it dosent affect lightings, only my mind biggrin.gif
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