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So, I am having trouble getting a stable overclock and am wondering what I am missing on this AMD motherboard...

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CPU: Phenom II X4 960T (3.0 Ghz Stock)
Mem: Corsair 16GB DDR3 1600 Mhz
Mobo: Asus M5A99FX Pro R2.0

The first thing I did originally was I set the memory from the stock 1333Mhz and set it manually at 1600Mhz, this was rock stable and had no issues.

I then starting pushing the multiplier up in 200Mhz increments, all the way to 3.6 Ghz, on stock voltage. This is 100% stable.

When I set the base to 3.8 Ghz and the boost to 4.0 Ghz, the machine started to freeze very early on, most of the time it wouldn't even boot to Windows. I started bumping the voltage offset, but got up to about 0.085V increase, and it did get more stable, but would still have errors on games, and would eventually freeze/BSOD.

Any ideas on this?
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What is your current CPU volts? Most Thubans take at least 1.4v-1.45v to run at 3.8GHz+
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Speaking from experience.

1st. Disable Spread Spectrum
2nd. Disable Turbo Boost.

Is your CPU unlocked to 1600/1605T yet?

If you are going to overclock it only as a quad, 1.4V is a must for 3.8Ghz.
If you intend to unlock it, 1.4V for 3.4.Ghz is the minimum, 1.425 for 3.6Ghz (i run it at 1.4125V 3.6).

First, set the CPU voltage to 1.4V, set the Offset to +50mV, set the multiplier to 3.8Ghz, try to boot. If you boot, launch IBT and try running 5 times on Maximum to see if its stable and if it will handle the temps.
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What is your current CPU volts? Most Thubans take at least 1.4v-1.45v to run at 3.8GHz+
This. In my experience, when an Overclock stabilizes with more vcore, it generally needs more juice. In my opinion, starting from the ground up is a bad route to yo take. Raise your vcore to as high as acceptable for your cooling, run it stock and see the temps. Then up your multi and bus speed as you see fit (i think the phenom 2 responds more to bus speed increase as apposed to multiplier) until your Max temps and that will be your best Overclock.
     
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Aside from what have been suggested . . . you might get ideas starting with Post #6 . . .

http://www.overclock.net/t/1229458/hi-960t-d

I disable Turbo on mine as well as C1E, and other power saving features in bios. Make sure your load temp stays below 50C if possible.
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Its important to mention whats your cooling. Just dont say stock cooler.
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Current CPU Voltage is at stock in the BIOS, CPU-Z is showing it as between 1.368V - 1.500 voltage, as I was putting the CPU under load.

I cannot unlock this CPU because this motherboard does not support, I sadly did not find that out until after the fact, turns out Asus took that ability out in the R2.0 version, though the original still has it.

I was hoping to be able to keep Cool N Quiet and Turbo, though I could prob live without Turbo as it never really works with the Phenom II lineup anyway.

Cpu cooling is a Zalman 9500, as I write this, at 3.6 Ghz, its about 31C

Also this system is in my signature as "Phoenix"
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Originally Posted by Thedarklord View Post

Current CPU Voltage is at stock in the BIOS, CPU-Z is showing it as between 1.368V - 1.500 voltage, as I was putting the CPU under load.

I cannot unlock this CPU because this motherboard does not support, I sadly did not find that out until after the fact, turns out Asus took that ability out in the R2.0 version, though the original still has it.

I was hoping to be able to keep Cool N Quiet and Turbo, though I could prob live without Turbo as it never really works with the Phenom II lineup anyway.

Cpu cooling is a Zalman 9500, as I write this, at 3.6 Ghz, its about 31C

Also this system is in my signature as "Phoenix"

31 at idle is actually good. you want below 35, so it won't go above 55 at load from my experience. can't run Prime if i oc and the idle is higher than 35. Turbo messes up the oc when it kicks in and the voltage is not enuf. i think at stock of 3.0GHz it turbos to 3.4GHz. 3.6GHz is a decent oc. I keep mine at 3.8GHz with a CM 212 cpu cooler and it handles a HD 7950 fine. I unlock to Six core for games like C3 or BF4.

Keep your HT close to 2000MHz and the NB to around 2600MHz or higher.

EDIT: with the 480, i don't think you need a six core.

Right now i got it at 4GHz actually . . .



that's my vcore for six core. i just leave it even if i lock it to quad. Check out the HT link and the NB freq.

Check out my temp with only a 212 but my ambient is pretty low . . .




23C using MX-2.
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31 at idle is actually good. you want below 35, so it won't go above 55 at load from my experience.
Idle temperatures have absolutely nothing to do with temperatures under load.
When I used stock cooler my idle temperatures was actually lower than using a 212 evo but yet under full load it was running much cooler.
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There's been no mention of which memory kit/setup your running (2x8GB or 4x4GB?). Can make a huge difference!
Current Dram setup, CPU/NB voltage and Dram voltage?

Freezing is usually a sign of a lack of Dram voltage (check first) than go for additional CPU/NB voltage. Many times it's a combination of the two.
Running all four dimms is almost a guaranteed increase to CPU/NB voltage.

It's not uncommon to need an additional .05v to .1v Dram voltage (above specs on the sticker on the Dram itself) on the AMD side as the factory "sticker" spec is rated for Intel.
As you raise the CPU freq this usually also goes up again after a point/s.

You mentioned that setup "was" rock stable before increasing Dram freq. How was stability tested, which test and how long? Prime95, IBT AVX?
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