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What the... I was thinking: 'Yeah I see why they're doing this, they're making sure that people on older versions of Windows are aware of being able to update to Windows 10 for free, so when you can't update for free anymore people can't really complain much about it as they literally had the update shoved in their faces constantly'

But then I realized that you cancel it anymore...

Nah, that can't be true. They wouldn't literally force people to update to Windows 10 without their consent would they? Right?

Please tell me it isn't true.

Mine upgraded all by itself while I was at work. Can't say I was too pleased by that but now that I've got it customized to my liking, I have to say that I'm really enjoying it. It didn't break or lose anything in the process either. I've since gone ahead and upgraded all 4 of my PCs to 10 and they all did fine...
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THEY KNOW ALL MY SECRETS!!!! applaud.gif

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Mine upgraded all by itself while I was at work. Can't say I was too pleased by that but now that I've got it customized to my liking, I have to say that I'm really enjoying it. It didn't break or lose anything in the process either. I've since gone ahead and upgraded all 4 of my PCs to 10 and they all did fine...

The point is Ms should not force another OS on a computer unless the customer has authorised or intended to switch. Doing so is just wrong and is just shady, especially with the whole telementry stuff going on.

Telementry?. Theres no knowing what they do with the information once they have it.

Think you have nothing to lose? Think again.
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Mine upgraded all by itself while I was at work. Can't say I was too pleased by that but now that I've got it customized to my liking, I have to say that I'm really enjoying it. It didn't break or lose anything in the process either. I've since gone ahead and upgraded all 4 of my PCs to 10 and they all did fine...

The point is Ms should not force another OS on a computer unless the customer has authorised or intended to switch. Doing so is just wrong and is just shady, especially with the whole telementry stuff going on.

Telementry?. Theres no knowing what they do with the information once they have it.

Think you have nothing to lose? Think again.

Show me a person who has nothing to hide and I'll show you five ways to hang him.

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https://twitter.com/tonroosendaal/status/739043969485688832

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Superfun.

I especially love the brainwashed people who suggest "turn off auto updates" all the time. It's an OS change, not some patch for a stupid bug. In this case, for them windows 7 was the bug, windows 10 cured it biggrin.gif
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Got caught in this on my media PC. Ended up with a Win10 update I did not want... Ultimately it's not a big deal, however Win7 has some old school methods of file sorting I've never been able to figure out on Win10.
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Your point #1 is half of the reason users on here routinely mock Linux for not "just working" and being "do it yourself". If you don't want someone telling you how to use something that they made for you then you should make it yourself or find someone who won't just rent/lease it out to you. MS isn't going to be that entity.

Honestly most of your reply seems to be counter to the very nature of commercial operating systems; especially those not tied to restricted systems. It boils down to the fact that you don't own the product and never have. You own at best a license to the product (Windows) and as such you are a renter. Thus, you have no say in 99% of things because you don't own it. That's how MS views Windows users and that's how any company with proprietary software works.


The thing is that Windows has been a happy medium for decades. Microsoft seems to think that that way has become unsustainable or some other idea that makes them act the way they do. Perhaps it's to do with massification and a need to bring things down to the lowest common denominator.

But at the end of the day Windows is still a product that has to be used in order to stay relevant, so whether they're giving it away or selling it (and let's see what they'll do on the 29th of July), they still need to cater to an audience. They don't have to, but according to the latest data, Windows has dropped below 90% marketshare for the first time since measurements are being made, sitting below 89%.

Personally, I think that they are on a misguided route. Microsoft is still under the impression that it can turn the tables around with their own walled garden. How? And why would people move away from an ecosystem where they are already invested in? If people want a walled garden they already have other established options. They have, so to say, "the originals", why would anyone want a copy?

The only Windows smartphone that would work, and not fail as the current one that has a 0.7% marketshare, is an x86-64 system with an x86-64 copy of Windows running Win 32 applications. I'm not sure what Intel thinks about it since it cancelled some projects (some of which I didn't agree with 100% to begin with, but that's another story), although I can guess that it doesn't want to lose revenue by selling low cost Atom machines that can replace high margin laptops and desktops, but Microsoft only has that way out if they want to succeed in mobile. They are not going to beat others at their own game. They should bring the desktop paradigm to mobile, not the other way around.


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You make one huge mistake and that's that M$py were originally going to treat Enterprise exactly the same and have said they are going to bombard them with ads too. Win Spy is a trojan, regardless of which version you use. There is no proof that the Enterprise or even Server editions are malware free and that they won't do to them what they do to their Home and Pro users.

I have said it before and will say it again. If I were the enterprise world I would invest in Linux as M$py can't be trusted not to use their 'OS' as a corporate spying tool.


You are right, not even the Enterprise version, embedded with some of those features and the inability to completely remove others is what I'd consider acceptable or Enterprise grade. Not discriminating home and pro users against the enterprise ones would be a start in my opinion, but you're right, it's still not enough.
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ME - bleh
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8.1 - bleh
I'd love to hear how you rank these 2 the same. I still consider ME to be the Worst OS I ever used.
8.1 hate baffles me. The new settings manager is crap but control panel from 7 is still there. Start Dash/screen is a great evolution of the start menu. It's also generally faster than 7.
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