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Ohh so that's what this is about. Its about you not wanting to deal with it. Understood.

So it's MS fault that their OS works on literally 100000000000000 different hardware and they have to go out and verify every single one of them works with Windows 10? Or better yet, the smarter idea would be that each vendor makes sure their hardware/software is compatible with Windows 10, submits a signature request, receives, and problem solved. Yup, the hardware for your gramps PC doesn't work on Windows 10 because MS decided to let the vendors decide if their hardware/software works instead of spending BILLIONS doing it themselves and then driving up the cost of licensing which we consumers have to pay.

Free upgrade to Windows 10 is ending July. Weather the storm till then and you won't have to deal with it.

PS You don't own any Windows OS. You purchase the license to use it. EULA states that they can do whatever they want and you can't say jack. Want your voice to be heard, convince billions of people to stop using MS.

Smarter idea is to let people actually CHOSE whether they want to install or not.
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Smarter idea is to let people actually CHOSE whether they want to install or not.

Oh I agree 100000% and at the end of July, you'll have that choice.
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Oh I agree 100000% and at the end of July, you'll have that choice.

I wonder this too: do you think they'll keep nagging people NOT for the "FREEEEEEEE !!" version but paid version with the same GWX app ? Or even, free preview version biggrin.gif It'll ask your credit card number after 30 days biggrin.gif
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I already blocked all Win10 updates on all Win7 machines I have in my house long time ago so I don't have to deal with those issues.

I use some software incompatible with win10 so I want to stay on Win7.

I also use XP on my HTPC simply because 32MB vram(integrated ATI X1250,plays 720P movies just fine) is not much for newer OS(it can run win7 but I would have less vram for movies).

Since XP has support up to 2019 by updates for XP embedded(changing registry allows any version of XP to receive those updates) then perhaps it will be the same for Win7 embedded.
This could mean win7 support beyond 2020 as System version registry hacks also work in windows 7.
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So it's MS fault that their OS works on literally 100000000000000 different hardware and they have to go out and verify every single one of them works with Windows 10? Or better yet, the smarter idea would be that each vendor makes sure their hardware/software is compatible with Windows 10, submits a signature request, receives, and problem solved. Yup, the hardware for your gramps PC doesn't work on Windows 10 because MS decided to let the vendors decide if their hardware/software works instead of spending BILLIONS doing it themselves and then driving up the cost of licensing which we consumers have to pay.

Free upgrade to Windows 10 is ending July. Weather the storm till then and you won't have to deal with it.
Yes, it is their fault because THEY decided to start pushing windows 10 onto machines that were not supported, and which windows 10 had already been told to sod off. The moment MS decided they knew better then the end user whether or not their machine was going to run 10, they took responsibility for making sure that windows 10 actually works right. Clearly, MS doesnt give an F about it's users, because if they did this automatic upgrade thing would have dies in a fire, specifically because this kind of stuff happens when you force upgrade.
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Ohh so that's what this is about. Its about you not wanting to deal with it. Understood.
Yes, how dare I want to use a piece of software I've been running for years, and works properly with all of my equipment, and runs on a secure, up to date OS? Silly me, I obviously must comply with the MS overlords and purchase new software because they demand I run windows 10 instead, because clearly I'd be better off with that, and learning a new piece of software once I track down one that works with everything I have, because windows 10 is that much better.

Oh wait, I'm not a brainless drone.
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PS You don't own any Windows OS. You purchase the license to use it. EULA states that they can do whatever they want and you can't say jack. Want your voice to be heard, convince billions of people to stop using MS.
I guess you missed the part about me moving most of my family to linux then? I can tell you I'm not the only techie doing that, I myself only run windows on my desktop when I need to play the witcher 3 or some older GoG game, and once I get my VM with VT-D set up properly, that will no longer be necessary. Windows will exist in a VM, and will only have connections to what I allow it to connect to. Goodbye forced updates forever!

I also have moved quite a few co workers's home machines to linux as well. Only complaint was someone who wanted to watch netflix, which was fixed when support was brought to linux. Our IT department is moving more and more stuff away from MS software in the server space, and chromebooks are rapidly replacing general usage machines, since 99% of what we do is web based now. MS is rapidly becoming obsolescent for us, and I hope soon for more people, to put an end to this madness.
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I don't see a problem with this, but I know I am the minority.. For any Mac users, you should already be used to this, as if you delay long enough on OS X updates, it will eventually force the update, right now. At least Windows gives you the option to pick a time.. And if one is so concerned with not updating, simply pick a day 10 years from now!.

I don't know what you are talking about but I have never seen or heard about OS X forcing you to install an update or doing it without your consent. There is an option in the settings (that is very easy to find) where you can allow OS X to install updates automatically but as far as I know it is off be default. I usually don't update to the newest major OS X version until a year or two later and OS X just has a little notification balloon that pops every month or so reminding you that there is a new version to update to and gives you the option to "update now" or "not now". It will never just force the update on you automatically, Apple isn't that stupid.
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Ohh so that's what this is about. Its about you not wanting to deal with it. Understood.

So it's MS fault that their OS works on literally 100000000000000 different hardware and they have to go out and verify every single one of them works with Windows 10? Or better yet, the smarter idea would be that each vendor makes sure their hardware/software is compatible with Windows 10, submits a signature request, receives, and problem solved. Yup, the hardware for your gramps PC doesn't work on Windows 10 because MS decided to let the vendors decide if their hardware/software works instead of spending BILLIONS doing it themselves and then driving up the cost of licensing which we consumers have to pay.

Free upgrade to Windows 10 is ending July. Weather the storm till then and you won't have to deal with it.

PS You don't own any Windows OS. You purchase the license to use it. EULA states that they can do whatever they want and you can't say jack. Want your voice to be heard, convince billions of people to stop using MS.

Free does not mean the right to force it on consumers.
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I can think of one reason to do it. In a month or so when the free upgrades are gone, people are going to start complaining they didn't get a free upgrade. So Microsoft is probably doing this so they can give those people the big middle finger and say "You pressed 'No'"

I also agree that there's no reason to stay on Windows 7 (aka Vista with a new front end) Its the same as the masses staying on XP when 7 came out because they were scared of change.
Sadly I'm not educated enough on what classifies an OS as good or bad. The reason I'm still on 7 is because all I hear is how bad 10 is. I literally have not heard from anyone saying that it's good. This is one topic where I just take the opinions from the majority of people. And all I see is bad bad bad bad. That's why I haven't switched yet.
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ah look! the 2352345146534163146341th thread about Windows 10 upgrades!
     
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I paid for my 8.1 Pro license which is supported through what...2023 or something??? I will go ahead and use 8.1 Pro through it's supported timeframe with the freedoms/control it gives me that Win 10 does not have, or until Win 10 is fixed to give me the same level of control I have with 8.1 Pro.
that's exactly my plan except I upgraded once to 10 and saved the license key for later, then reinstalled 8.1 pro. When the inevitable time comes I'll have my free key.
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