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post #11 of 19
Funny... I have a CMStorm TK, with black switches, because at the time red switches would feel too light for typing, and I couldn't stand the gritty feel of the brown switches.

Now that I'm used not to bottom out while typing, I would actually consider going red ; I feel the black switches are a little bit hard on my fingers.

But you know, most people say red are for gaming, blue are for typing, black are for weirdos... Just try to type gently, not bottoming out, especially since you got Your Qpad for a good price, maybe you're gonna get used to it.

OR since you've just landed in the magnificent Kingdom of Mechanical Medical Dependency, you might as well buy another keyboard for typing, with blue or brown switches 😀
     
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post #12 of 19
If you plan on typing a lot, just get Blacks, same feeling switch but with more force needed to type on, it's actually better imo for typing.


Personally I think MX Clears are the best but....whateva tongue.gif
post #13 of 19
It really depends on personal preference more than anything. Blues are good for typing because of the noticeable tactile bump and click when the key registers, making typing quickly without bottoming out easier because you can feel and hear exactly when a key engages and immediately go for the next key. That said if you prefer the feel of reds though, there is no reason you would type slower, it's just harder to know exactly when the key registers, and in addition to the fact that they are light switches, makes bottoming out very easy, which can be hard on your fingers in the long run. O-rings and landing pads can help with that a little, and with double o-rings on all the switches you can usually make the key bottom out right when the key actuates, albeit it does make the keys feel a bit mushy, but again that's all preference.

I personally only like to use Blue switches (w/ o-rings) even though I do a fair bit of gaming including games like CS:GO. Even though I have to wait an extra millisecond or so for the switch to reset before I can use it again, I still prefer having switches that I enjoy the feel of vs. keys that theoretically make me a better gamer. In the same way, theoretically blues will make you a better typist, but if you like the feeling of red switches better, then stick with reds.

MX Clears are also a nice option if you don't mind a heavier switch. It has a very noticeable tactile bump, but is even heavier than a blue, and has no clicking sound/mechanism. I personally don't like brown switches because although there is a tactile bump, its very subtle and hard to notice, plus it also doesn't make a click, making it hard to notice when the key registers like blacks and reds. With the clear switches you get the benefit of a quieter switch, plus a noticeable bump to know exactly when the key engages.
post #14 of 19
I've been using a daskeyboard with browns for 5+ years and it's been great for typing and for gaming in my book. The noise is minimal and none of my roommates have ever complained about the noise even when I asked them about it after getting the keyboard.

I'm looking forward to getting their newer version of the keyboard which has a volume control ... but I don't think I will get there since it'll continue to last me after spilling sprite on it twice, milk on it once. mad.gif
post #15 of 19
Nothing wrong with reds for typing. It is all preference.

Personally I can't stand browns. They feel like poop. Doesn't matter what you're doing with them. The only reason I can see to use browns is because they in theory can be more quiet than the others, but since they feel so awful, why not just cheap out and go with equally quiet membranes (or the new cherry silents).

Clicky switches (like blues) are a lot of fun to me, but they can be really inconsistent. They are technically the worst switch type, but I still like them.

In theory non-clicky but still tactile switches (like browns) can be nice, but in practice, most them suck. Browns are mushy and clears are really wobbly. Both feel "cheap"... but that's just me.

Linear switches are nice. I have no qualms with them. I wouldn't use anything stiffer than blacks though (why on earth did Ducky think it was a good idea to put greys on certain keys of their otherwise black clad keyboards. Do they not realize those things require herculean strength to depress?!)
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post #16 of 19
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@Oleh : I'm interested in buying O-rings for the reds, but I see there's different kinds of O-rings. Do you happen to know what is the best fit for reds for typing a lot?

I got the kb today, I love the sound it makes (as well as the feel tongue.gif ) My WPM got worse a little because I make a bit more mistakes than with rubber dome, but I think it'll get better in a week. I bet the O-rings will help with bottoming out issue, atm it's an instinct to bottom out each key.
post #17 of 19
Again its about prefrence. Depends on the brand/color your looking at. On mechanichalkeyboards.com the blue and red rings are 40a hardness I believe, and the colors dictate thickness. Red rings are thin, and are very hard to notice, while blue/clear rings are a bit thicker and have a bit more give.

I personally use blue/clear rings, as I like having a little extra cusioning when I bottom out. How they feel will also depend on the inner structure of the keycaps. If they have large support brackets blue o-rings could feel too restricting and if you have smaller/shorter support brackets you might not even notice the o-rings untill you double, or even sometimes triple them up.

Here is some more info:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53990.0
Edited by Oleh - 6/11/16 at 7:20am
post #18 of 19
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Originally Posted by Oleh View Post

Again its about prefrence. Depends on the brand/color your looking at. On mechanichalkeyboards.com the blue and red rings are 40a hardness I believe, and the colors dictate thickness. Red rings are thin, and are very hard to notice, while blue/clear rings are a bit thicker and have a bit more give.

I personally use blue/clear rings, as I like having a little extra cusioning when I bottom out. How they feel will also depend on the inner structure of the keycaps. If they have large support brackets blue o-rings could feel too restricting and if you have smaller/shorter support brackets you might not even notice the o-rings untill you double, or even sometimes triple them up.

Here is some more info:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53990.0

Thanks for the link it was very informative smile.gif I'm most interested about 40a-l red o-rings, but as I'm completely new to the mechanical kb:s, I think my bottoming out issue might solve itself as months go by don't you think? But it's always nice to have a solution to it in case it never ceases.

And yea pretty much my WPM has dropped by 10 with this kb haha..
post #19 of 19
As long as you consiously keep in mind that you don't need to bottom out everytime, you will start learning to type quickly without bottoming out. I would also play around with the switches to get a feel for exactly when they engage. Open something like notepad, and start slowly pressing the key untill it registers, then make a note of how much further it can go before bottoming out.
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