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Originally Posted by Kuivamaa View Post

Steam machines are just a tool to help steamOS grow bigger , decouple PC gaming from Windows and reduce the threat MS and windows store pose to Valve. I seriously doubt valve ever wanted to make money out of the machines themselves.

Agreed. I think Steam should be working with the laptop/prebuilt gaming desktop manufacturers to offer SteamOS pre-installed for dual-booting instead to get the OS on as many machines as possible.
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I never had high hopes for Steam Machines. The only way I saw them working was if they kept the amount of options very low, and cost within reason of consoles. When some console player sees countless Steam Machines ranging from $500 - $5,000+ they're going to say screw that and just buy a Xbone or PS4. Add to that, big name titles at the time of release such as Fallout 4 wasn't even available on the OS and it's no wonder people didn't buy them.

Really the only market for them were PC owners that were more likely to buy the $50 link over spending $500+ on a Steam Machine. Even then, if I were to buy a Steam Machine I'd buy the windows version. Which brings up another point, they put out the Steam Link which removes the need for many to even think about putting a dedicated gaming rig in their living room. They put out Steam Machines, and in the same stroke put out a product that removed the need for such a system for their most likely customers.
     
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Considering that SteamOS never made it out of beta for 3 years, I can see why. And people still to this day do not know what it even is.

Is it a computer?
Is it a gaming console?
Is it a media streaming device?
Is it a network attached storage device?
Does it cook you breakfast in the morning?

When I think of the Steam Machine I think of this...


Edited by aweir - 6/4/16 at 8:31am
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MPC-HC x64 and chill. 0 monies required.

Huh? MPC-HC doesn't include the keys to play a retail bluray. The whole point of the person I quoted was to show that he was mistaken in claiming that Linux "can't do x". I demonstrated that neither could Windows without extra software that one has to pay for.

On the main topic I expected Steam Machines to fail because Valve made no real effort to actually make things work. They made no serious moves to get hardware companies to offer better support for Linux and I'm talking more than just GPU drivers as apparently there are some people on here attached to particular brands of sound cards among other things. Next they aren't in as strong of a position as MS and thus can't leverage devs into making games OpenGL/Vulkan based (and even that doesn't guarantee Linux support as Doom3 and the new Doom demonstrate).

Valve really would have to be in a position to lose substantial revenue for them to actually treat SteamOS and SteamMachines as anything but a hobby project. And right now there seems to be no such financial incentive for them to do so. MS hasn't cut off their platform on Windows and hasn't been a large enough threat to it to motivate them yet. It is only if MS blocks Steam or becomes a serious enough competitor that they'll bother. Until then Ouya. rolleyes.gif
     
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Consoles are still better for playing on a couch. Sure I can hook my PC up to my TV with a long HDMI cable, which I do because I like 60 fps and I have a huge Steam library, but most people don't want to do that. Consoles are made with controller navigation in mind.What if you're sitting on your couch playing a game and it crashes to the desktop? You have to get up, get your keyboard and mouse, and fix it. Consoles don't have that problem.
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