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Polaris is obviously not on track, the full die has yet to be seen and even with a highly clocked 40 CU fully clocked P10 chip it will only be able to compete with a 1070, and lose a decent majority of the time, and this would cause Polaris to be soundly defeated in perf/watt to the 1070/1080

That doesn't mean Vega is off track, as AMD most likely has more than a single team working on gpu's, but they aren't trying to make the same mistake they just made by hyping a product up over 6 months only to release a single card at 2 price points

There has been a Polaris launch countdown from AMD for the last 4+ months. Polaris is on track, the idiotic hype train has been pushing the launch date around in their heads.

The main reason that the launch date has been scheduled a bit out is because it will be a full launch with laptop, integrated, and desktop product availability. I don't think they are going to trickle out cards just to hit an early launch given the design wins. We already know its going into Apple products at least, and other OEMs are likely on board.
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1080 is mainstream, it's actually just middle-of-the-road in almost every way.

When the "next" generation comes around, with no die shrink, GP104 or equivelant die-size GPU will be in the 1160 bracket. Nvidia is trying to make money, so they develop a stack of GPU's, and release them from the middle out.... They've done this literally every time since kepler and no one seems to catch on- so this time, AMD released a lower mainstream card and priced it somewhat fairly to combat it . Every card this generation will have to be essentially built from the ground up on 14/16nm. Brand new chips take a while to develop, and Nvidia already has 1 fully taped out and they'll either have GP102 or GP106 ready in a month or 2.

pascal stack GP100-102-104-106-108

Speculated next line of card in late-2017 when titan 4 is released
1140- GP108 80$/only in mobile
1150 GP106 130$
1160-cut or full GP104 aka 1070 200$
1170-full GP104 or cut GP102 aka 1080/1080 Ti 350$
1180-GP102 (prev. titan 3/ 1080 Ti) 500$
1180 Ti- cut GP100 (potentially new architecture and not GP100) 700$
Titan 4- GP100 (potentially new architecture and not GP100) 1000$

But we have to wait on AMD to release cards that push nvidia into releasing their full lineup
Yes, actually Nvidia is on track. GP104 full die is here and on a 1080.
Exactly- People who were saying "is AMD finished?" in 1080 reviews immediately lost me as a reader/viewer

So how many pple will be buying this "mainstream" 1080?
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So how many pple will be buying this "mainstream" 1080?

From my understanding stores like Microcenter only had 10 or less per store on launch day - that is far from mainstream...
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There has been a Polaris launch countdown from AMD for the last 4+ months. Polaris is on track, the idiotic hype train has been pushing the launch date around in their heads.

The main reason that the launch date has been scheduled a bit out is because it will be a full launch with laptop, integrated, and desktop product availability. I don't think they are going to trickle out cards just to hit an early launch given the design wins. We already know its going into Apple products at least, and other OEMs are likely on board.

Its not like Computex with pretty much every notebook manufacturer showcasing their newest notebooks would be the best place to show and advertise the Polaris cards rolleyes.gif
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So how many pple will be buying this "mainstream" 1080?

Get your "mainstream" card only at 599/699 price.

Someone should read the term mainstream again.
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Get your "mainstream" card only at 599/699 price.

Someone should read the term mainstream again.
Maybe you should do too... rolleyes.gif
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Mainstream is current thought that is widespread

https://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/nvidia/gtx1080/full_history.php
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I rate where cards belong from their price point. A $700 1080 definitely isn't mainstream, and even the $380 MSRP 1070 is well in the enthusiast segment. 80% of GPUs being sold at the $100-300 range supports that.
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Maybe you should do too... rolleyes.gif
https://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/nvidia/gtx1080/full_history.php

Because everyone has a 699 gpu rolleyes.gif

You should work for a big company you know a lot about the market
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Its not like Computex with pretty much every notebook manufacturer showcasing their newest notebooks would be the best place to show and advertise the Polaris cards rolleyes.gif

It actually has poped up a few places at Computex. Its just under NDA. thumb.gif
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Because everyone has a 699 gpu rolleyes.gif

You should work for a big company you know a lot about the market
My point was that Nvidia went up in price because they know people will pay that sort of money anyway.
Its sickening that its now $600 instead of $500, but like the nowinstock link I posted show, the cards are going out as fast as hotcakes anyway.

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It actually has poped up a few places at Computex. Its just under NDA. thumb.gif
Wasnt very public if it was shown only for a few guys? Doesnt sound like the exposure AMD really need
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