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Originally Posted by guttheslayer View Post

G5X for now support only 256 bits.

Thats not how memory works. G5X can have 1024-Bit if they implement such a large controller.
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post #172 of 374
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Thats not how memory works. G5X can have 1024-Bit if they implement such a large controller.

As far as I know that is what it was said to support
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It depends on how sensitive it is to noise. More memory channels means you have to deal with more interference and crosstalk.
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Pascal Tesla P100 has HBM2

he didn't read the threa-ead
he didn't read the threa-ead
he didn't read the threa-ead


Titan P is a GQDR5 product with a 384 bit interface. No p100 will ever be in a graphics card.
post #175 of 374
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You rarely hear GCN fanboys bring this up because it undermines their argument.
If you want to see a dynamic form of this RDF, you can join the AMD Discord server. I joined it for the lols, but it started to scare me that people actually behaved/believed in this stuff 100%.

Same goes for people believing Zen will be better than Intel *and* cheaper.
They forget that when AMD ruled the roost (Athlon 64 X2), that the price were exceedingly expensive.
http://techreport.com/review/8295/amd-athlon-64-x2-processors

AMD - if given the chance, will charge $1,000 for CPUs. Let's not forget that this happened before.
Later on the X2 3800+ was introduced, bringing the entry price down to the $350 range (down from $500+), but that was months later.
Hey, who are you on Discord?
I'm a moderator in the AMD discord lol.
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Same goes for people believing Zen will be better than Intel *and* cheaper.
They forget that when AMD ruled the roost (Athlon 64 X2), that the price were exceedingly expensive.
http://techreport.com/review/8295/amd-athlon-64-x2-processors

I'm of the opinion that the big boy Zen will launch at $500-600.
post #177 of 374
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Originally Posted by PontiacGTX View Post

Only that th 550usd from Nvidia was a midrange GPU at high end price wink.gif ,meanwhile AMD kept its pricing for high end during 2 years, Nvidia high end pricing was 30% more expensive. now charges an extra fee for a reference model which was at the same price or lower than aftermarket cards rolleyes:

Now comparing AMD pricing on 2015,Since Nvidia charged 1000usd for a enthusiast GPU (using 2008 memory tech and lower FP64 perf), why AMD wouldnt follow same price hike trend (100% increase From nvidia.), why AMD wouldnt release a 18% more expensive card with the First HBM memory which required 5-7years of R&D with a Aftermarket-like cooling wink.gif

First off, the 680 was priced because it was nvidia's top card. And that is what it cost them until 28nm manufacturing could keep up. Why did AMD priced the 7970 so high comparatively?

Also don't you remember the 295x2? Remember its "best card in the universe" marketing and 1500$ price tag?
Or the fact that fury x was just not worth higher price because it couldn't deliver the performance? If it did, they would definitely price it at 800$ easy. Also it is not just AMD that put the R&D. To remind you that nvidia R&D budget is several times AMDs? AMD are actually cutting their R&D every year, so why keep the higher price tag if they spend less?

You are acting like we should give AMD our money just because they are the underdogs. It doesn't work that way.
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GP102 won't - Nvidia abandoned HBM2.

Question is: will it matter?

I would argue no because they aren't developing an SOC anymore.

Do you have official confirmation that nvidia abandoned HBM2?
Or is it just your crystal ball telling you that?
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You are the one putting false information out there.

GTX 980Ti is not Gx104 chip.
GTX 780 is not Gx104 chip.

GTX 980 was a Gx104 chip. You are right, it was $550. But it was a 400mm2 card which is far bigger than any previous Gx104 chips (usually around 300-330mm2). So they had to go up in price.

Other previous Gx104 chips:
GTX 680; $499
GTX 560 Ti: $250
GTX 460: $229


GTX 1080 is short said a medium sized chip with a price we used to have for the biggest chips. The GTX 1070 isnt so bad though, as it offer much better value than GTX 1080.

Chip size has absolutely nothing to do with price. Not even in the slightest.
The market pricing is about performance compared to relative products.

If a 20mm2 chip can perform as fast was a 800mm2 chip, that tiny chip will be priced higher.

So again, stop making stuff up.

The end consumer doesn't check to see if it is Gx104, 110, 111000 or 7. He doesn't care the slightest if the chip is 200mm2 or 400mm2 or 100000mm2. All he cares about is getting the performance he wants for the money he has.
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Do you have official confirmation that nvidia abandoned HBM2?
Or is it just your crystal ball telling you that?
Thought all leaks indicated GDDR5X and 384bit bus for GP102 - this a good thing cause the packaging costs of HBM are too great.

The market has spoken after the release of the Nano, they don't want more compact GPUs. People won't pay for it and "Journalists" don't seem to care.

Now AMD is pushing HBM2 very hard with Vega - I'm just worried that the market isn't ready for such products and it could be a costly mistake. HBM2 seems rather risky to me on a consumer GPU.

HBM2 will secure the next consoles and numerous design wins with OEMs for AMD cause we all know APU are bandwidth starved.
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