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What is this going to compete with? The 1080?

What happens 3 months later when GP100/GP102 stomps on this card? C'mon AMD.
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What is this going to compete with? The 1080?

What happens 3 months later when GP100/GP102 stomps on this card? C'mon AMD.


If it scale well, it will definitely be faster, fret not. But it just wont be good enough to compete the big pascal. I would say performance between 1080 Ti and 1080.


This is a repeat of 290X and 780 Ti all over again. (although we know 290X eventually trumph 780 Ti. lol)
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What is this going to compete with? The 1080?

What happens 3 months later when GP100/GP102 stomps on this card? C'mon AMD.

Like I said if this card comes $550 than GP100 what ever will be price a lot higher.
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Like I said if this card comes $550 than GP100 what ever will be price a lot higher.

Hasn't this been the trend?

We shld be glad it didnt go up higher becz its using a even more expensive node.


Anyway AMD is looking good at $549 USD price point because:


1) It has ACE or DX12 advantages

2) Their cards really ages well over the months.


From what I can see, That performance between 1080 and 1080 Ti is used for DX11 titles. For DX12 games, it might actually match the Ti.
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There is no indication it will only be release in 2017.

They said again just last week that Vega (the family after Polaris) is a 2017 product.
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Ruth Cotter
Yes. So it's a call about where you want to show most momentum in the market and the timing you associate with that. So if you see our new GPU roadmap that we rolled out in March, we have this Polaris family. And then that is followed-on by another family in 2017, which is actually a very tight cadence in terms of how you would normally launch products into the market. There might be a longer timeframe associated between new architectures. So we're very excited about the follow-on family.
So if you imagine, Polaris will ramp over a series of quarters, as we nail that performance and mainstream portion of the market, then you follow it on, and buy a new family in terms of the ultra-enthusiast portion of the market.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/3977446-advanced-micro-devices-amd-44th-annual-jpmorgan-global-technology-media-telecom-conference
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We do not know how much P10 can OC. That is a huge factor here. If for some reason it hits 1.6GHz+ then this card will actually compete with 1070. Being very optimistic here.

Well, the 480 is championing efficiency moreso than performance, and there was some backyard math/ speculation putting the 480 at ~90-100w from the demo at computex... AMD probably doesn't want to ramp the clocks too high with the card because they wanted maximum efficiency. With 150w being available by design, there is alot of headroom, so hopefully the chips can withstand high clocks.

I'm wanting to believe that the 490 (or whatever it's called), is being held so tightly under wraps because AMD is trying to decide on how they want it to compete with the 1070. As the clocks ramp up (assuming the chips can clock decently high), consumption probably increases considerably, forcing them to decide how much efficiency they are willing to sacrifice to get it to perform nearly as well as a 1070. It will likely be an 8pin minimum, so if the 480 only consumes ~100w, the 490 has at least another 100w to play with.
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Is AMD officially out of the high end enthusiast segment?

They can barely compete with mainstream chips like the 1080 and it'll be 5+ months late to boot and we know they won't compete with Pascal/1080Ti.
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Is AMD officially out of the high end enthusiast segment?

They can barely compete with mainstream chips like the 1080 and it'll be 5+ months late to boot and we know they won't compete with Pascal/1080Ti.

They said the same thing when Titan and 780 came out.
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Is AMD officially out of the high end enthusiast segment?

They can barely compete with mainstream chips like the 1080 and it'll be 5+ months late to boot and we know they won't compete with Pascal/1080Ti.


Too early to make that judgement. Driver improvement might push the card much faster about 6 months after launch.


Vega could be a good OC with WCE. They are far from being out IMO. Just not the fastest. Probably 10-20% behind at start and catches up after months of driver optimization.
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They said the same thing when Titan and 780 came out.


Which is why I said its 290X and 780 Ti all over again. biggrin.gif
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