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That means Preppers can now buy end of the world survival gear at Staples

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I think the interesting thing about AI is the idea we'd be able to identify it as intelligent in the first place. I suspect an AI "self aware" and "intelligent" data lifeform living in the internet would be so foreign to human understanding it probably could exist without us noticing it for DECADES as the very existence would be alien in the extreme to our very understanding of what life or intelligence is.

In those decades it likely would increase it's capabilities and intelligence at a frightening speed and likely would learn a LOT about us.

The question to pose is would it have a high self preservation/replication instinct or not. if it does humanity would probably be wiped out via skynet style action; this is of course assuming it has the ability to even OBSERVE and correlate what it's learned about humanity on the net to the organisms outside the net. if it does not, then chances are it will simply hide in the internet and grow more and more capable all the while remaining undetected by humanity. The real question would then be if it will initiate contact with humanity, or would simply exist in corners of the net until people start to discover it.
 
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I don't think you understand the idea of how quickly technology has evolved in the past decade alone. Ten years ago if you told someone that they'd have a casual tablet in the year 2016 that was more powerful than anything that they had in 2005, they'd probably think you're crazy. I mean, my Fire HDX 7" is more powerful than the Pentium 4 Dell I owned back in 2006 and this tablet is only from 2013! Take one from today and you'd see something on par with a Core 2 chip more than likely... if not more powerful yet, and I'm speaking strictly ARM CPUs here, not the ULV Intel stuff that's competing.

A.I. is something that'll likely happen within the next decade or two at MOST, if we don't nuke ourselves into the stone age. tongue.gif

The strides in machine learning we have made in the last five years gets everyone excited. They see the self driving cars and automated factories. That is small fries compared to real AI. Even programs like Watson, even though they are impressive, are leaps and bounds away from being conscience. In the computer crowd it was once thought that we would need a computer capable of human level reasoning and thinking to beat another human at chess. Look how that turned out. We even have one that beats us at jeopardy and it is nothing like a real AI would be. We are decades away from true self aware programs or hardware. To put this into perspective: Lets say we want to run a human brain simulation to achieve an AI. We would need around an exaflop. Right now the worlds fastest computer runs around 33.6 petaflops. We would need around 30 of these to even have the power to simulate a human brain. Then we would need the understanding and the hardware to be able to simulate and scan an active brain into the system. This is only one of a few ways to get to AI, but its one of the easiest. The others would take decades of research and development to even get off the ground. It is nothing now to program a computer to recognize / learn road signs or colors and have a machine respond in certain ways, but getting a program to actually learn and understand the way we do is way more complex. Thousands of times more difficult.


If you're interested I suggest reading Superintelligence Paths, Dangers, Strategies by Nick Bostrom. It is a very interesting read. He goes over almost anything you'd want to know about developing AI. Reading the book has me convinced that we will have AI before the turn of the century, but you might be getting your hopes prematurely up for the two decades mark.
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Source.
We joke about skynet but maybe its time to start taking measures to, well, stop it.

I was thinking more like Batman

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The strides in machine learning we have made in the last five years gets everyone excited. They see the self driving cars and automated factories. That is small fries compared to real AI. Even programs like Watson, even though they are impressive, are leaps and bounds away from being conscience. In the computer crowd it was once thought that we would need a computer capable of human level reasoning and thinking to beat another human at chess. Look how that turned out. We even have one that beats us at jeopardy and it is nothing like a real AI would be. We are decades away from true self aware programs or hardware. To put this into perspective: Lets say we want to run a human brain simulation to achieve an AI. We would need around an exaflop. Right now the worlds fastest computer runs around 33.6 petaflops. We would need around 30 of these to even have the power to simulate a human brain. Then we would need the understanding and the hardware to be able to simulate and scan an active brain into the system. This is only one of a few ways to get to AI, but its one of the easiest. The others would take decades of research and development to even get off the ground. It is nothing now to program a computer to recognize / learn road signs or colors and have a machine respond in certain ways, but getting a program to actually learn and understand the way we do is way more complex. Thousands of times more difficult.


If you're interested I suggest reading Superintelligence Paths, Dangers, Strategies by Nick Bostrom. It is a very interesting read. He goes over almost anything you'd want to know about developing AI. Reading the book has me convinced that we will have AI before the turn of the century, but you might be getting your hopes prematurely up for the two decades mark.

Thank you for the book recommendation, it definately looks very interesting!
post #26 of 30
"Google against AI" is the same as "bees against honey".
post #27 of 30
Here's to hoping our future AI overlord is benevolent and doesn't take us trying to shut it down as a slight or threat and instead turns it into a joke by having the countermeasure play the movie Maximum Overdrive on a loop for 24 hours . We all know that there are 2 scenarios in which AI would screw with humans.

We screw with it 1st and fail, or it sees us as a threat because we are incredibly destructive and divided as a species. I doubt AI would look at humanity as a whole and think "well, there's potential for something great here, they just need proper guidance". It would be more likely to see a trend of self-destructive behavior over the course of thousands of years - and decide we're a threat to the planet and its ecosystems that will likely in time destroy everything, including the AI.

Essentially, a singularity event and our fear of it is indicative that we know just how awful we conduct ourselves and fear judgment from something with the power to punish humanity for it's incomprehensible greed and villainy.
Edited by DIYDeath - 6/6/16 at 3:03pm
post #28 of 30
All this will do is say... allow a person take over an automated car or stop an automated stock trading program, the AI part is obviously click bait.
post #29 of 30
Who says google hasn't already been taken over by AI but has learned how to hide itself trough leadership chains and is in fact in full control over google?

Nah that would be silly would it? I need to stop watching doctor who and other syfy, this isn't good for me.
post #30 of 30
if people can think of preventive measures, they can obviously think of anti-preventive measures, as murphy's law says "anything that can go wrong, will go wrong".


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cut the cables, infrastructure, etc.

use a hammer.
i was gonna comment "tactical EMP nuke" but people would still argue with shielded facilities, welp. hmmsmiley02.gif
Edited by epic1337 - 6/7/16 at 4:59am
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