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I have it installed on my Gigabyte Gaming G1 motherboard and i have no issues with installing or recognizing. Installing was very simple and i could clone my OS in it without any problem. Some Intel motherboard had trouble recognizing the M.2 drive on z170 chipsets but that is mostly the boards fault or user error because in most scenario's it works just fine.

I just inserted my SSD in the M.2 slot and copied my cloned windows 10 OS on it and it works like a charm.

I do want to point out that it can be a hassle when you installing Windows 7 on it because it doesn't install the Microsoft Nvme drivers so the best thing is to install Windows 10 on it which has the Nvme drivers in order to make it work. Later you can install the Samsung or other drivers that are required for the SSD to work properly.

What SSD are you planning to buy? Nvme or SATA SSD?

This was something I was going to have a friend help me with. If you have any suggestions, I'll be more than happy to listen.
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Alright, if current owners aren't having problems, I'm no longer as worried.
I'm a very impatient person when it comes to new products, so waiting for RMA, arrrrgh!
I'll go ahead with the build as is, but after emailing Anidees, I'll be waiting for the windowed version of the case to hit "shelves" in a week or so.

If anyone else would like to suggest anything I could add for quieter fans, I would appreciate it, as I've read that most stock fans will be rather loud and have nearly no 'de-vibration' accessories.
I've been trying to find the foam fan/radiator protectors but I have no idea what they are called, so my searches are yielding very poor results.

I am in the same wat when it comes to RMA, that's one reason i don't buy Asus anymore because from where i am from Asus has a bad RMA reputation.. Thins get lost or it takes for ever to get new one back if at all..

That is why i have a lot of Corsair components because their RMA service is one of the best out there, so is Cooler Master with their PSU's. They have an replacement service that when a unit dies you simply have to fill in a few thing on their site and they will send you a new one within a week... That's pretty need if you ask me, and to be honest that is the kind of service people deserve IMO and its 2016 not 1984 anymore lol

As for the fans, you mean case fans or you want other fans for your cooler?
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Right now?
Seriously:It's not a good time to build an AMD computer.Not right now.
Piledriver is EOL and there's new stuff coming soon.

$350 budget,aye?

Here's what I'd get:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-P6X58D-E-LGA-1366-Socket-B-Intel-Motherboard-/112016364685?hash=item1a14b2148d:g:RigAAOSw7ehXQ8ON $181

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Xeon-X5650-SLBV3-2-66GHz-Six-Core-LGA1366-Processor-CPU-XN-km-/172210006868?hash=item2818842b54:g:AVcAAOSwfZ1WZzAu $65

Total: $246.

Get a nice cooler and ssd, too.


^That's a 6-core,12-thread chip you can OC easily to 4.1-2 Ghz for daily and even at those low clocks outperforms AMD chips at their highest LN2 clocks (8Ghz+) (mostly)
I found a couple instances where it doesn't but ..here..let me give you an example:
AMD @ 6Ghz

x5650 @ 4-ish Ghz ( i run higher than that for daily)

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I'm looking to build my first AMD rig, and from what I can tell, they're pretty hit or miss. You're either getting what you see described, or you're getting something similar to a DoA.

This similar to a DOA comment makes no sense to me whatsoever.

Anyway horrible time to build an AMD rig, 5 years ago maybe lol.

But I'll be serious now if you really want an AMD rig then you'd be better off waiting till the end of the year to do it, as Zen chips with an alleged performance double that of an 8350 will be released on the new AM4 socket.

The only reason to build one right now would be if budget was so tight and you could snag a cheap 8320 and mobo for a bargain price from somewhere, even then I'd be inclined not to.
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Right now?
Seriously:It's not a good time to build an AMD computer.Not right now.
Piledriver is EOL and there's new stuff coming soon.

$350 budget,aye?

Here's what I'd get:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-P6X58D-E-LGA-1366-Socket-B-Intel-Motherboard-/112016364685?hash=item1a14b2148d:g:RigAAOSw7ehXQ8ON $181

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Xeon-X5650-SLBV3-2-66GHz-Six-Core-LGA1366-Processor-CPU-XN-km-/172210006868?hash=item2818842b54:g:AVcAAOSwfZ1WZzAu $65

Total: $246.

Get a nice cooler and ssd, too.


^That's a 6-core,12-thread chip you can OC easily to 4.1-2 Ghz for daily and even at those low clocks outperforms AMD chips at their highest LN2 clocks (8Ghz+) (mostly)
I found a couple instances where it doesn't but ..here..let me give you an example:
AMD @ 6Ghz

x5650 @ 4-ish Ghz ( i run higher than that for daily)

I get your EOL and you are right by that, but seriously, you are using Cinebench R15 as a benchmark to compare Intel to AMD chips...? Also, The Xeon wasn't on 4.2 but on 4.4 GHz....

I dig the whole EOL and Intel does have better per core performance but at leas post some real world applications like rendering etc.. the FX chip isn't that bad as you make it look like.. when i read things like this i can only think on Intel fanboys to be honest, are you an Intel fanboy, Schmuck?
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This similar to a DOA comment makes no sense to me whatsoever.

Anyway horrible time to build an AMD rig, 5 years ago maybe lol.

But I'll be serious now if you really want an AMD rig then you'd be better off waiting till the end of the year to do it, as Zen chips with an alleged performance double that of an 8350 will be released on the new AM4 socket.

The only reason to build one right now would be if budget was so tight and you could snag a cheap 8320 and mobo for a bargain price from somewhere, even then I'd be inclined not to.

I havent purchased anything AMD, but I've read through hundreds and hundreds of reviews. Many, just like with Intel, come DoA. I'm not saying an outrageous number of them are DoA, just that its really hit or miss. You get what youre trying to buy or you get a heap of scrap.

Waiting for the end of the year to continue gaming just isnt going to work for me lmao.
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I havent purchased anything AMD, but I've read through hundreds and hundreds of reviews. Many, just like with Intel, come DoA. I'm not saying an outrageous number of them are DoA, just that its really hit or miss. You get what youre trying to buy or you get a heap of scrap.

Waiting for the end of the year to continue gaming just isnt going to work for me lmao.

The DOA doesn't make any sense at all IMO.

I purchased a lot of stuff over the years and i never had an DOA... A friend of mine actually worked as an retail store that sells all kinds of electrical stuff including PC components and he rarely seen an DOA... It does happen of course but the situations are very rare and it can happen on Intel and AMD a like. As a matter a fact, AMD FX chips are very tough and can take a hell of a punishment.. Ask in this thread and they will confirm this: http://www.overclock.net/t/1318995/official-fx-8320-fx-8350-vishera-owners-club/60660#post_25236548
For gaming and working in Adobe the FX chip is very good because its actually more geared for multitasking than single core performance.

It depends on how badly you need your new system, i do agree that its not an very good time to buy AMD FX chips but that doesn't mean they perform any worse than a year ago.. they are still very good chips and if you cannot wait until the end of the year i would go with the setup you posted in previous posts.
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The DOA doesn't make any sense at all IMO.

I purchased a lot of stuff over the years and i never had an DOA... A friend of mine actually worked as an retail store that sells all kinds of electrical stuff including PC components and he rarely seen an DOA... It does happen of course but the situations are very rare and it can happen on Intel and AMD a like. As a matter a fact, AMD FX chips are very tough and can take a hell of a punishment.. Ask in this thread and they will confirm this: http://www.overclock.net/t/1318995/official-fx-8320-fx-8350-vishera-owners-club/60660#post_25236548
For gaming and working in Adobe the FX chip is very good because its actually more geared for multitasking than single core performance.

It depends on how badly you need your new system, i do agree that its not an very good time to buy AMD FX chips but that doesn't mean they perform any worse than a year ago.. they are still very good chips and if you cannot wait until the end of the year i would go with the setup you posted in previous posts.

Without buying anything, I can't say for sure. I'm just summing up what i've read.
People seem to be more able to post a critical review of something than they are if it works as intended, which is probably why I see the DoA posts.
I've always been weary of big purchases for electronics.
I guess its time to start buying my build then. In the future ill probably look into the newer chips that will be coming out along with the am4 boards. I hoenstly had no idea they were going to be making new boards and cpus so thank you for pointing that out.
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I get your EOL and you are right by that, but seriously, you are using Cinebench R15 as a benchmark to compare Intel to AMD chips...? Also, The Xeon wasn't on 4.2 but on 4.4 GHz....

I dig the whole EOL and Intel does have better per core performance but at leas post some real world applications like rendering etc.. the FX chip isn't that bad as you make it look like.. when i read things like this i can only think on Intel fanboys to be honest, are you an Intel fanboy, Schmuck?

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I'd say not.Better performance for cheaper is better performance for cheaper..


I happen to still have a Westmere-EP setup.Any time you want to go head to head in any bench against FX-8core series let me know.
I don't care if I toast the CPU,it only cost me $61.

I went from x99 SOC Champion + 5820K back to that setup.Because anything post Sandy Bridge from Intel is unreliable,IMHO.
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I'd say not.Better performance for cheaper is better performance for cheaper..


I happen to still have a Westmere-EP setup.Any time you want to go head to head in any bench against FX-8core series let me know.

I went from x99 SOC Champion + 5820K back to that setup.Because anything post Sandy Bridge from Intel is unreliable,IMHO.

Aside from the little bit of drama thats going on, you've got me interested. Could you link me to your build you're speaking of? I would like to look into that, if not just for curiosity.
Could you also post a recent bench from your current build?
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