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Curious if you installed windows in UEFI mode or legacy?

The mouse thing indicates some issues with I/O.

You said you'd flashed the motherboard BIOS...

Is the OS installed on an HDD?

Can you try a different Bios revision?

Is the mouse lag only in windows or does it also do this while in BIOS?

Alright, so I made a bootable usb stick using the MSI windows smart tool yesterday, didn't really try them. As for today I re-applied the thermal, put less this time as I think i've put too much before, but not much to get it over the sides, just too much for my own taste not that it caused any problems. And somehow the feeling was different, not sure if placebo but maybe the drives got affected by the change, i don't really know.

Anyways, to the important news, after having a terrible game of csgo in unplayable mouse state, I decided to plug in the USB stick I made yesterday, I also plugged my 2nd HDD off. The USB this time worked absolutely fine, with no lag on the mouse cursor.. I finished the installation, plugged in my 3rd HDD (not 2nd) and things seems to be MUCH better... I don't know if it's in perfect shape, but the difference is MASSIVE... I atleast feel some kind of control over my mouse now.

As for the sound... it was incredibly, insanely low when I first got into windows, when I installed the drivers it made it louder but not near enough... I have it on 100% and my phone still plays louder.. in comparison, my old creative x-fi fatal1ty only needs 40% to make me go deaf.
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I also have massive mouse lags, specially in Windows 7... And now none of my usbs reads my usb drive to install drivers.... But yet when I go into bios to flash, it works.
Unsure if its got to do with the XHCI hand-off bios setting, https://www.asus.com/sg/support/FAQ/1013649/
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Unsure if its got to do with the XHCI hand-off bios setting, https://www.asus.com/sg/support/FAQ/1013649/

Thanks, I will try it next time.

Looks like for now I have fixed both issues. I went into Realtek settings and pressed some button that changed the logo from speakers to Headphones, that increased the volume a bit. Then I downloaded the Nahimic software utility, there was a volume boost options and other random stuff that also seems to have increased the volume to the level I like it.

Overall sound quality is alright, needs a lot of playing around with Nahimic to get it to a good state, but imo a dedicated soundcard is probably still better.

As for the mouse issue... it feels way better than before, but still not 100%... I'm suspecting my ssd still, I'll see tomorrow, cuz even though it felt good on the desktop, and the first 5 minutes ingame, it started feeling REALLY bad after 10 mins in csgo.. and this time I had installed csgo on the SSD rather than my 2nd drive.

Also I've had this issue before, but back then I had a different cpu, mobo and RAM... but same SSD, so it has to be the SSD causing me issues.
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With your new installation, have you tried getting rid of the Realtek drivers? If you're just using headphones for gaming, you could probably do without them. Usually switching from headphones to speakers makes the sound louder (IIRC), but that also sounds like it's switching from some type of virtual surround to headphones and would explain why it's getting louder when going to just the headphone settings.

I've heard the 1150 chip and it's actually really decent for onboard. It has come quite a ways from onboard audio of the past. It outweighs most entry level sound cards in quality. However, volume issues shouldn't be occurring as I can get it to deafeningly loud levels on my AKG Q701. The Nahimic application may be amplifying noise via software, which is what would cause the sound to be rather underwhelming.
 
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With your new installation, have you tried getting rid of the Realtek drivers? If you're just using headphones for gaming, you could probably do without them. Usually switching from headphones to speakers makes the sound louder (IIRC), but that also sounds like it's switching from some type of virtual surround to headphones and would explain why it's getting louder when going to just the headphone settings.

I've heard the 1150 chip and it's actually really decent for onboard. It has come quite a ways from onboard audio of the past. It outweighs most entry level sound cards in quality. However, volume issues shouldn't be occurring as I can get it to deafeningly loud levels on my AKG Q701. The Nahimic application may be amplifying noise via software, which is what would cause the sound to be rather underwhelming.

Well that is not my case right now.. It's loud enough but the quality is not that good for me. Also it's the opposite for me, I get louder sound by having it on headphones.

Without the Realtek driver it's incredibly low to the level of whispering.

EDIT: older? or drivers from realtek website makes it way more louder than the one provided from the MSI website, I'd say it's on par with my phone now, I still need 100% though. And Nahimic doesn't install now because it wants the newer drivers. doh.gif
Edited by Aymanb - 6/7/16 at 10:57pm
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Well that is not my case right now.. It's loud enough but the quality is not that good for me. Also it's the opposite for me, I get louder sound by having it on headphones.

Without the Realtek driver it's incredibly low to the level of whispering.

EDIT: older? or drivers from realtek website makes it way more louder than the one provided from the MSI website, I'd say it's on par with my phone now, I still need 100% though. And Nahimic doesn't install now because it wants the newer drivers. doh.gif

Yeah, I'd go with Realtek drivers from their site over MSI ones. Chances are they pick and choose updates every once in a while, and unfortunately since it's not a 'flagship' board, they probably don't update them often. I believe I just have the Realtek drivers downloaded and installed, though I pipe everything out via optical. I tested it to make sure my case connections worked, and everything seemed to be in order....who knows.
 
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Yeah, I'd go with Realtek drivers from their site over MSI ones. Chances are they pick and choose updates every once in a while, and unfortunately since it's not a 'flagship' board, they probably don't update them often. I believe I just have the Realtek drivers downloaded and installed, though I pipe everything out via optical. I tested it to make sure my case connections worked, and everything seemed to be in order....who knows.

Yeah, I started downloading random Realtek drivers that supports ALC1150 and they are all way, way louder than the ones provided by MSI.. I'm talking night and day difference, but still nothing "wow" but better than before atleast.

I did open up an MSI ticket ranting about the driver now. Long shot but whatever. I still don't know why I'm forced to use 100% each and everytime... with my creative x-fi fata1lty pro, 30% was enough,
Edited by Aymanb - 6/7/16 at 11:59pm
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Yeah, I find that very strange. Multiple drivers changing it almost lead me to believe the board may be faulty...but that's somewhat of a long-shot. Is it the same with front panel connections as it is for the rear? That'd be a good way to find out if it's an I/O issue.
 
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Is that the headset with the removable cord? As in you can unplug it from the headphones?

This may sound stupid, but my gf has the ATH-m50x headphones and was doing the same thing. Ended up the small jack that plugs into the headphone wasn't seated all the way.

Probably not it, but worth mentioning.

She has hers hooked up to a schiit stack magni/modi and its more than enough power so can't relate using motherboard sound. But my motherboard drives my sennheiser hd598's just fine.

Good luck man
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Yeah, I find that very strange. Multiple drivers changing it almost lead me to believe the board may be faulty...but that's somewhat of a long-shot. Is it the same with front panel connections as it is for the rear? That'd be a good way to find out if it's an I/O issue.

Same thing, the headphone settings might be a little bit louder sometimes, still need 100%

MSI support are telling me to do a clean windows installation, I'll try to do that with the new SSD. Not sure if it solves anything, at this point I've done thousand of installations and it's always been the same.
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Is that the headset with the removable cord? As in you can unplug it from the headphones?

This may sound stupid, but my gf has the ATH-m50x headphones and was doing the same thing. Ended up the small jack that plugs into the headphone wasn't seated all the way.

Probably not it, but worth mentioning.

She has hers hooked up to a schiit stack magni/modi and its more than enough power so can't relate using motherboard sound. But my motherboard drives my sennheiser hd598's just fine.

Good luck man

Nothing is stupid bro, pc's are weird. But na, I have the older m50s, its about 4-5 years old now but i frequently change the earpads.

I was suspecting the headphones but as I've mentioned, my x-fi fatal1ty soundcard works just fine where 30% is enough.
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