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surprised no one posted this yet appears to be a hp board but still
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The second and perhaps the biggest change of this platform, of course, is that the chipset is completely integrated with the processor, and so there's no chipset on the board. The processor socket wires out all the connections a southbridge, FCH, or PCH normally would, plus all the I/O of a northbridge (PCIe, memory, etc). The platform supports dual-channel DDR4 memory, and PCI-Express gen 3.0 across its PCIe budget.
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Demo boards are no frills prototypes. They aren't going to waste money on something used just for testing.
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It's interesting that they made their test board without an ATX power connector as far as we can tell. It appears to have a CPU 4 pin and two PCIe 6 pin connectors meaning the board receives only 12 volt power. (The connectors could also certainly be for a custom power source that doesn't conform to any standard we know.) This says nothing about trends or the consumer market of course, but it's neat in and of itself.
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It's interesting that they made their test board without an ATX power connector as far as we can tell. It appears to have a CPU 4 pin and two PCIe 6 pin connectors meaning the board receives only 12 volt power. (The connectors could also certainly be for a custom power source that doesn't conform to any standard we know.) This says nothing about trends or the consumer market of course, but it's neat in and of itself.

Dell's Optiplex 7020 SFFs also use a non-24pin. Just a 10-pin and a CPU 4-pin. That doesn't mean that they use 12v only, it just means OEMs are trying to cut out what they don't feel they need.
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Dell's Optiplex 7020 SFFs also use a non-24pin. Just a 10-pin and a CPU 4-pin. That doesn't mean that they use 12v only, it just means OEMs are trying to cut out what they don't feel they need.

It depends on what is in the connectors of course, like I noted. If the test board uses standard connectors, it's 12V only. If not, it could be anything. It doesn't really have much in the way of implications, but it's interesting.

OEMs have on and off played with custom power connectors. For small form machine it makes sense, but when they do it for standard mid tower or server stuff it's always annoying.
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Dell's Optiplex 7020 SFFs also use a non-24pin. Just a 10-pin and a CPU 4-pin. That doesn't mean that they use 12v only, it just means OEMs are trying to cut out what they don't feel they need.

It depends on what is in the connectors of course, like I noted. If the test board uses standard connectors, it's 12V only. If not, it could be anything. It doesn't really have much in the way of implications, but it's interesting.

OEMs have on and off played with custom power connectors. For small form machine it makes sense, but when they do it for standard mid tower or server stuff it's always annoying.

You can't use "Standard connectors", as you would not have a PSU sense line to turn it on...
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BOOOO! I want LGA! thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif Come on AMD, please. G34 is LGA. C32 is LGA. I'm pretty sure Socket F is LGA.

Ugh. I guess we'll see it for servers/workstations, a market where the CPU is often half an order of magnitude more expensive than the motherboard. Despite the time and labor costs, replacing a motherboard with bent pins is much cheaper than a CPU with that market, and - good for the processor maker - it shifts the costs onto the board maker.
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I see this picture 3rd time here on OCN. And iirc first one ever posted in web was in our forum smile.gif
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BOOOO! I want LGA! thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif Come on AMD, please. G34 is LGA. C32 is LGA. I'm pretty sure Socket F is LGA.

Ugh. I guess we'll see it for servers/workstations, a market where the CPU is often half an order of magnitude more expensive than the motherboard. Despite the time and labor costs, replacing a motherboard with bent pins is much cheaper than a CPU with that market, and - good for the processor maker - it shifts the costs onto the board maker.

There is the 2012 patent application that turned out to be for AM4 and the server equivalent I assume which turns out to be LGA (some socket that can be swapped between PGA and LGA).

 

https://www.google.com/patents/US20140043768

 

http://wccftech.com/amd-am4-%C2%B5opga-socket-1331/

 

So it looks like they're keeping it this way...or possibly switching to LGA with Zen+?

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