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We have already seen that on the fury x with HBM, so you want that with GDDR5?
Sorry if I may have missed it amid the gung ho of the 980ti being hailed as the savior of the human race, where did you find the Fury / X being not able to compete with a 980ti based on the 4GB limit of the former at same resolution / settings ? Or just to simplify, where did the 980ti dominate because it had 6GB of VRAM compared to Fury /X
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1733 boost clock, 2100mhz overclock.

2100 - 1733/ 1733 = 21.2% overclock.

The performance isn't scaling with the frequency as well as it did with Maxwell, but the chip overclocks just fine.

In every way, scaling, gross overclock. performance over last generation, pascal is entirely similar to every other architecture release from Nvidia and AMD.

You only get around a 10% clock speed gain (if that) over the review benchmarks though. As you say it's also not scaling that well. Raw performance is awesome in general but its a little disappointing that enthusiasts don't gain much by tweaking the card themselves. Fine for those that don't touch anything I suppose.

Gone are the days where something like an 800mhz (900mhz boost) 7950 would go to 1150mhz+ and gain a huge percentage, plus scale well.

I guess that is a reality I have to face. Overclocking just doesn't yield the same gains it used to, can't even watercool these cards to get more out of them either puke.gif
post #63 of 95
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Not really. Once you take into account how most of the benchmarks out there chose to compare the cards compared to how we all run them the difference is not very big. For instance, Showing the Titan X, run at a speed of 1075MHz, to a GTX 1080, run at 1900MHz. Does anyone run a TitanX at 1075? No. They run it at 1500MHz on average. So increase those TitanX scores by 40%, and increase 1080 scores by 10%. Now the comparison is pretty close in real world situations. Reviewers wont show you that since Nvidia wont give them anymore free cards if they did.

We have a number of tests posted back further in the 1080 review thread that tested a 1500 MHz Titan X and a 1451 MHz 980 TI Lightning vs the 980.

Here's one.

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Nvidia-Geforce-Grafikkarte-255598/Specials/Benchmark-Test-Video-1195464/2/
Edited by mcg75 - 6/7/16 at 12:24pm
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We have a number of tests posted back further in the thread that tested a 1500 MHz Titan X and a 1451 MHz 980 TI Lightning vs the 980.

Here's one.

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Nvidia-Geforce-Grafikkarte-255598/Specials/Benchmark-Test-Video-1195464/2/

Thanks for the link. Shows my point very well. Wish there were some English sites that were willing to show the truth instead of bowing to Nvidia's review rules to get free cards






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Thanks for the link. Shows my point very well. Wish there were some English sites that were willing to show the truth instead of bowing to Nvidia's review rules to get free cards







http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/nvidia_geforcegtx_1070_overclocking/2.htm

eh hem.

Can't read german, but the occ shows the GTX 1080 and 1070 running away with it, especially at high resolutions.
post #66 of 95
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I'm not understanding the disappointment with Pascal. What am I missing?

1080 completely destroys previous generation cards in ways I haven't seen in a long time, and it's not even the Ti version. At 1440p and even 4k it absolutely CHOMPS up those frames.



If people's disappointment is with the pricing, then I totally understand - but the pricing situation is purely because AMD hasn't stepped up (yet), and for no other reason.

From a pure graphics horsepower perspective this architecture is crazy powerful, and 1080 Ti is going to be even crazier.

Its disappointment because nvidia has been gimping their card other than not doing nothing, they are just enjoying the benefit of the +40% speed in 16 FF+.

Yet they churn out smth that is only 25% faster. Its beyond disappointing tbh
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Edit: please delete, posted wrong thread.
Edited by darkwizard - 6/8/16 at 7:54am
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I don't see the reason for the disappointment. The 1080 is considerably smaller (die size), has less cuda cores, less transistors, lower memory bandwidth, consumes considerably less power and yet manages to be faster than the 980ti and Titan. If anything the 1080 shows how poor of an improvement the 980ti was over the 980.

768 more cuda cores, 48 more texture units, 32 more ROP's, 128bit wider memory bus, 2.8b more transistors and 85 more watts than the 980. All of that and not as much of an improvement over the 980 as the 1080 is, even though all of those numbers trump the 1080 as well.

The 1080 is not a great upgrade for 980ti and Titan, that doesn't mean the 1080 is disappointing. If the 1080ti is not a good upgrade for the 980ti then we have reason be disappointed.
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Sorry if I may have missed it amid the gung ho of the 980ti being hailed as the savior of the human race, where did you find the Fury / X being not able to compete with a 980ti based on the 4GB limit of the former at same resolution / settings ? Or just to simplify, where did the 980ti dominate because it had 6GB of VRAM compared to Fury /X

Where have you not?
Just look at review numbers. In most dx11 games, the 980 ti dominate pretty easily.
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I still get nowhere near 73fps on average I know a 5960X won't make a iota of difference because TW3 doesn't come close to pushing my CPU to the max.

You know how?
Have you tried? Do you have 4 channel memory? Exta cores?
No you don't know. You guess.

They got it, you hadn't. Stop being so jealous.
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