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Originally Posted by Waitng4realGPU View Post

Of course Zen isn't going into Apple's 2016 laptops, Zen APUs aren't going to be released (ie have decent production numbers) until 2017.

Unless I'm missing something?

I'm sure Apple will consider AMD if they are competitive again with cpus.

IIRC, Apple was considering using Trinity or Richland or something a couple years ago, so I bet they're definitely looking at Zen.
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post #22 of 41
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Originally Posted by Waitng4realGPU View Post

Of course Zen isn't going into Apple's 2016 laptops, Zen APUs aren't going to be released (ie have decent production numbers) until 2017.

Unless I'm missing something?

I'm sure Apple will consider AMD if they are competitive again with cpus.

Yeah, I hadn't even included that as the big reason but I think I was focused on the more general question of why Apple might not in the future use Zen even when it comes out. I think they'd need Zen to have as good or better performance and thermal results (since Apple likes making skinny laptops).

Assuming Apple doesn't use any Intel specific compiler optimizations for OSX then I think the only issue holding AMD back in the future is the performance, thermal, and to a lessor extent brand reputation. It would certainly be interesting to see Apple use them if just to see what kind of reaction that would elicit out of Intel.
     
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post #23 of 41
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Yeah, I hadn't even included that as the big reason but I think I was focused on the more general question of why Apple might not in the future use Zen even when it comes out. I think they'd need Zen to have as good or better performance and thermal results (since Apple likes making skinny laptops).

Assuming Apple doesn't use any Intel specific compiler optimizations for OSX then I think the only issue holding AMD back in the future is the performance, thermal, and to a lessor extent brand reputation. It would certainly be interesting to see Apple use them if just to see what kind of reaction that would elicit out of Intel.

Brand reputation should have no bearing on the deal. Apple buyers purchase Apple because they think they are the best and have faith in the company to give them a top performing product.

I doubt an apple fan would say 'I'm not buying that product because it has an AMD processor' that's more of an PC elitist thing. As a business they would be foolish to let that sway their decision as they could get a potentially cheaper product that performs on par or better.

AMD have been able to provide powerful on chip graphics solutions for a while now for the price, just lacking cpu processing power to go with it.

Zen APU with huge ipc improvements (along with DDR4) will be hugely competitive and should land them plenty of contracts.
post #24 of 41
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I doubt an apple fan would say 'I'm not buying that product because it has an AMD processor' that's more of an PC elitist thing. As a business they would be foolish to let that sway their decision as they could get a potentially cheaper product that performs on par or better.
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I'm a huge apple fan but I'm not buying a macbook pro 15" with dedicated graphics because it has a AMD graphics processor. There, I said it. I'll rather get base with the intel iGPU only and upgrade up to the max rather than deal with AMD graphics switching. rolleyes.gif
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post #25 of 41
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I'm a huge apple fan but I'm not buying a macbook pro 15" with dedicated graphics because it has a AMD graphics processor. There, I said it. I'll rather get one with the intel iGPU only rather than deal with AMD graphics switching. rolleyes.gif

Why?
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I'm not willing to go dedicated for the marginal increase in performance when compared to the Skylake iGPU. Graphics switching is never 100% smooth and Nvidia driver compatibility on current macbook pro's are bad enough, I can only imagine what AMD mobile graphics drivers are on macbook pros.
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Apple still salty since Nvidia tried to sue them. I don't expect Nvidia to be in their products for another 2 years.

Apple has been suing and being sued by Samsung for ages, Nvidia and many other companies. Nvidia's legal fight with Apple is a peck of dust compared to Samsung's, yet Apple keep striking billions in deals for Samsung and all other companies that Apple is suing or getting sued from, why?

Simple, they are companies with grown men not Kindergarden brawlers.
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I'm not willing to go dedicated for the marginal increase in performance when compared to the Skylake iGPU. Graphics switching is never 100% smooth and Nvidia driver compatibility on current macbook pro's are bad enough, I can only imagine what AMD mobile graphics drivers are on macbook pros.

Raja leaves Apple for AMD - AMD forms radeon tech group = Raja is director - AMD wins apple.
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I'm in the market for the 2016 macbook pro 15" [/B.


Same here!!
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post #30 of 41
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I'm not willing to go dedicated for the marginal increase in performance when compared to the Skylake iGPU. Graphics switching is never 100% smooth and Nvidia driver compatibility on current macbook pro's are bad enough, I can only imagine what AMD mobile graphics drivers are on macbook pros.

Zen APU will destroy Skylake iGPU lol.

Anyway you are an elitist, which is exactly what I said in my post..........................you are the only people that will refuse an AMD solution.
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