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I guess like a lot of people now I'm looking at potential upgrades for my rig however its seems that most people are running mid range i5's, the odd 5XXX series i7 chips and generally stuff that's only a two years old give or take.

Overall from that jumping off point the performance gains of the Broadwell-E chips doesn't justify the cost of the chips nor the new hardware needed.

However I'm running a much older 4 year old i7 3970x (6 core 3.5 GHz stock 24/7 OC'ed to 4.0 Ghz) a chip that most people never seem to recognize that even existed given how little I've ever seen it mentioned anywhere.

Now I'm at least a year away from my original planned upgrade date (I build for a 5-7 years lifespan) so I'm not on a hair trigger by any means but besides more PCIe lanes and 3.0 lanes at that, M.2 support, USB 3.0c/3.1 support, and DDR4 I'm not seeing much else in terms of raw power either now or in the pipeline that would make even as big of a jump of processor generations as mine worth it.

I spent the money on the Messiah chip and it in all honesty still works just fine save for a motherboard that refuses to allow itself to be updated or use any of the ASUS software, but of course I have that itch we all have for more power and I could easily retire this rig to a much needed media center/server/storage role.

I realize I'm rambling but my overall question still stands... Where can I go from here and not find myself in the same trap as so many Ivy Bridge and newer people seem to have found themselves in after Sandy Bridge-E from what I could tell set the high water mark for several generations?
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running a 3930k here 24/7 @ 4.8 ghz. I dont feel this CPU is past it's time yet. Its not bottlenecking my GPU or anything for that matter. I say keep that chip for a while and maybe invest in cooling solutions to crank up the speed.... 4,0 ghz on that chip is like driving 60 km/h in a ferrari redface.gif
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My advice is to just keep rocking what you got. You could easily push the OC on your chip more too. Maybe zen will bring something maybe not. I'd buy more storage/better graphics card/equipment before anything else.
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I went from X79 3930K @4.5Ghz to X99 5960X @ 4.5Ghz and I can tell you it wasn't worth it. I notice no difference between the systems to be honest...only difference I saw was the jump from 3x EVGA 780TI SC to 4x EVGA Titan X SC's. GPU's and SSD's show the best improvement for the desktop, CPU's do nothing.

Unless your a die hard video encoder then upgrading to Broadwell-E would be the only reason it could be justified. For gaming it's money down the drain since it'll gain you absolutely nothing at all. Christ even I've been eyeing up the 6950X just recently, thinking of picking one up for giggles.

At the end of the day and my experience with the top of the range systems it's just not worth the expense. My X79 rig blitzes through everything even today with no sign of being hampered for the foreseeable future.

Trouble with being an enthusiast you buy stupid stuff just because you want it, not because you actually need it. I've since sold off 2x Titan X's and my 3rd ROG Swift and I've got a much better system than I had before. Go figure....
 
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Upgrade the GPU. CPU is fine. thumb.gif
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running a 3930k here 24/7 @ 4.8 ghz. I dont feel this CPU is past it's time yet. Its not bottlenecking my GPU or anything for that matter. I say keep that chip for a while and maybe invest in cooling solutions to crank up the speed.... 4,0 ghz on that chip is like driving 60 km/h in a ferrari redface.gif

I really want to jump to 4.5 and have done it before but just using the auto voltage settings its hitting 1.44-1.45v which from what I've read tends to quickly kill these chips. If I could figure out how to use the voltage options in my BIOS to set a max limit of Intel's max voltage spec of 1.35v I feel confident that I can run 24/7 with no issues.
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I went from X79 3930K @4.5Ghz to X99 5960X @ 4.5Ghz and I can tell you it wasn't worth it. I notice no difference between the systems to be honest...only difference I saw was the jump from 3x EVGA 780TI SC to 4x EVGA Titan X SC's. GPU's and SSD's show the best improvement for the desktop, CPU's do nothing.

Unless your a die hard video encoder then upgrading to Broadwell-E would be the only reason it could be justified. For gaming it's money down the drain since it'll gain you absolutely nothing at all. Christ even I've been eyeing up the 6950X just recently, thinking of picking one up for giggles.

At the end of the day and my experience with the top of the range systems it's just not worth the expense. My X79 rig blitzes through everything even today with no sign of being hampered for the foreseeable future.

Trouble with being an enthusiast you buy stupid stuff just because you want it, not because you actually need it. I've since sold off 2x Titan X's and my 3rd ROG Swift and I've got a much better system than I had before. Go figure....

Pretty much this was the argument that people made way back when I built this system that the power was useless and yet here I am still running with little effort save for GPU limits and even then my 6gb 1ghz edition HD7970 is barely beaten by anything short of the new 1080 and nothing yet from AMD.
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Pretty much this was the argument that people made way back when I built this system that the power was useless and yet here I am still running with little effort save for GPU limits and even then my 6gb 1ghz edition HD7970 is barely beaten by anything short of the new 1080 and nothing yet from AMD.

7970 has lived a great life thus far. The 390x/290x is still quite a bit faster. The 480 would be a good upgrade for you in my opinion.
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I am in the same boat with a 3960x and like you, have very little reason to upgrade at the moment. I was not thrilled with the X99 chipset so I am skipping this round including Broadwell-E. I am looking forward to Skylake-E which I think will be a better upgrade based on the success of the 6700K. Would m.2 support and even PCI-E 3.0 be nice? Yes, but I can wait.

Don't worry about those voltages. I have overclocked mine to 4.8GHz, stable. I think I have a good chip, max 1.38v. Anything at or above 1.5v and your chip will degrade.
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Intel has made little to no progress and is essentially releasing each year a 5% better performance which means you have to wait several releases of the platform to even get any worthwhile possible upgrade. Say Sandy/Ivy desktop would upgrade now to Skylake. Problem is the E series has fewer and later updates I'm not sure it's worth it to get the Broadwell E as the whole BW series is a poor clocker even these newer E series...
On the other hand you could get a BW Xeon with more cores than the consumer i7s have for same $.

I don't know why an old Sandy would have a problem with 1.4V when smaller newer node Haswell can do it and some poeple run that. I believe 1.35-1.45V on Sandy was quite normal for OC voltage.
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