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Hello I am new to over clocking and wanted to learn how to do it the right way. So if you can help please do so.

My current pic specs:
This computer is an IBUYPOWER- I-Series 301
Specs-
CPU- AMD FX(tm)-4300 Quad Core 3.80 GHz
RAM- 8 GB
GPU- GeForce GT 610
Motherboard- Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3
HDD- Toshiba DT01ACA200
Power Supply- Allied SL-8320BTX
Cpu cooler- Stock

First of all I am ordering an fx 8320 but I want to practice oc on this 4300 first. I will be upgrading my gpu at the end of this month when pascal is released. I also have a 240gb ssd in the mail along with a new psu.

Thermaltake PS-TPD-0850MPCGUS-1 850W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Active PFC Modular Power Supply

I know how to get to my bios and that's about it. Can someone explain to me thoroughly how I should oc the right and easiest way! I understand my mobo wasn't completely made for oc but it can handle some.
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Welcome Jrod. It's always nice to see a fellow member of the PC Master Race.

The process of overclocking is fairly simple, but there's still quite a few hardware details that you'll need to learn about. I'll do my best to explain them and provide direction.

1. CPU Voltage

CPU's require a very specific voltage to operate. Most CPU's operate anywhere from .8v to 1.4v, however, your job as an overclocker is to find the lowest voltage where your CPU will still do it's job without failing. As you increase the operating frequency of the CPU (overclock) you'll need to up the voltage of the CPU to maintain stability. However, the more voltage...the hotter the CPU will run.

2. Motherboard Voltage Regulation

Obviously, you want your processor to operating on a stable voltage. If the voltage is constantly fluctuating then you'll need to run at a much high average voltage than what is actually required for the processor. The motherboard is responsible for providing this stable voltage. More specifically, the motherboard VRMs (Voltage Regulation Modules) are what downconvert the PSU's 12v to the .8v-1.4v required by the CPU. VRM's can only output so much power, and they usually get quite hot even at stock settings. When you start asking them to output more voltage than stock they can get REALLY HOT. Good motherboards have dedicated heatsinks on the VRMs.

Finally, VRM's come in different phases. More phases means more power. The common ones are 4+1, 8+1 and 8+2. The first number is phases for your CPU, and the second is phases for your RAM. Typically, you should have as many phases as you do cores.

3. You're System Specially

Your motherboard is a 4+1 VRM board with a dedicated heatsink. It should overclock your 4300 somewhat comfortably. However, when you move to the 8320 you'll need to get a new motherboard since the 8320 is 8 cores. You may also run into CPU cooling issues. A stock cooler will probably be okay with the 4300, but to comfortably cool an 8320 you should look into an aftermarket cooler.

4. General Tips and Software

HWiNFO64 is one of the best monitoring programs. It will show you temperatures, voltages and frequencies of nearly all your components. Intel Burn Test AVX is a very popular stability testing program. It will slam your processor to 100% to torture test it's stability. Cinebench R15 is a free and light benchmark program. It will allow you to quantitatively gauge how much performance your gaining from your overclock.

Lastly, don't do any overclocks with software. All frequency and voltage changes should be done in BIOS. Also, as a new overclocker it's best to overclock with the multiplier and not the bclck (base clock, or FSB frequency). Changing the bclck influences the clock rate of your RAM, Northbridge and HyperTransport bus. Changing the multiplier is specific to just the processor.
    
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Hello I am new to over clocking and wanted to learn how to do it the right way. So if you can help please do so.

My current pic specs:
This computer is an IBUYPOWER- I-Series 301
Specs-
CPU- AMD FX(tm)-4300 Quad Core 3.80 GHz
RAM- 8 GB
GPU- GeForce GT 610
Motherboard- Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3
HDD- Toshiba DT01ACA200
Power Supply- Allied SL-8320BTX
Cpu cooler- Stock

First of all I am ordering an fx 8320 but I want to practice oc on this 4300 first. I will be upgrading my gpu at the end of this month when pascal is released. I also have a 240gb ssd in the mail along with a new psu.

Thermaltake PS-TPD-0850MPCGUS-1 850W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Active PFC Modular Power Supply

I know how to get to my bios and that's about it. Can someone explain to me thoroughly how I should oc the right and easiest way! I understand my mobo wasn't completely made for oc but it can handle some.


If you plan on getting an 8320 get a better motherboard or you will be very unhappy.
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I'm glad that you understand that you already need to get a new PSU. That thing will either blow up or not start at all with a 390.

 

You also need a new motherboard as that motherboard is not adequate for an 8320. While it will boot I don't trust that it won't throttle hard. Those 4+1 VRM's were not meant for a CPU as power hungry as the FX8xxx's so you really need to get a new board.

 

To overclock an FX8xxx you need to get a new cooler as well unless you live on either pole. Stock coolers can't keep these chips cool and overclocking is a very bad idea unless you don't mind your PC shutting down randomly.

 

If you are short of funds just get a better PSU and a cheap video card as that 610 is only adequate for desktop use. Even a second hand 7870/7970 will make games run so much better.

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