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Really there's no getting around the issue that Microsoft is being dishonest, they've cause irreparable damage to their reputation and the opinion of any given individual is mostly irrelevant when we have so many people being scarred by the experience in such a big way.
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Can linux become a thing yet?
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The thing I don't understand is how Windows updating is any different than getting the latest version of Chrome or Firefox or your Virus scanner....

Also the notion that these machines just magically update themselves is also false- if you just turn off updates everything works fine- we have multiple Windows 7 machines that i'll be updating eventually but not right now- if you don't know how to turn off updates then frankly you should be getting them anyway.
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Originally Posted by KarathKasun View Post

Yes, but you are the one that is transferring the blame to MS for bad IT management. If you work IT it is your job to stay on top of this stuff.

You confirm your disdain with this transference, or your ignorance. Take your pick.
By all means, continue virtue signalling.
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Virtue signaling, "Saying you love or hate something to show off what a virtuous person you are, instead of actually trying to fix the problem."

None of the MS "hate" crowd has put forth a viable solution despite saying how terrible MS is and that the users are idiots and can't be educated or prevented from making those decisions. Disabling auto-updates by itself is the easiest way to fix their problem, with the slight increase in security risk. The "proper" solution is to move to an easy to use Linux distribution or disable updates and employ a better network. Honestly, they could have even used one of the GWX killing scripts or apps.

None of these things take an IT specialist, it just takes some quality time doing your research. Its called being an educated consumer rather than a willfully ignorant putz. You would not be defending a for profit company if they mismanaged their network, so stop defending the same situation because you like the victims cause.

"(Brian asked that his last name not be used for personal reasons because he has such a dangerous job. He also asked if Newsweek could share the Chinko Project’s Indiegogo campaign to raise $50,000 to repair a damaged plane and to rent another plane.)"

Such dumb, his profile is on the organizations site...
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Yep, totally no ulterior motive.

I dont care about the cause.

You can spin this however you want, at the end of the day, this is the first time people have had to worry about leaving their computer and then coming back to find its updated its OS to something else.

I dont care if the IT guy should know better, what my problem is that MS are pushing a neutered OS with such force. An OS that gives its users even less control.
Edited by LoLomgbbq - 6/8/16 at 10:55am
post #105 of 161
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Virtue signaling, "Saying you love or hate something to show off what a virtuous person you are, instead of actually trying to fix the problem."

You got that from urbandictionary, didn't you? That is not "really" a credible source, since anyone can come up with a definition for something out of their arse...

Here is what wikipedia says: "Virtue signalling is the expression or promotion of viewpoints that are especially valued within a social group, especially when this is done primarily to enhance the social standing of the speaker."
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I dont care about the cause.

You can spin this however you want, at the end of the day, this is the first time people have had to worry about leaving their computer and then coming back to find its updated its OS to something else.

I dont care if the IT guy should know better, what my problem is, is that MS are pushing a neutered OS with such force. An OS, that gives its users even less control.

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post #107 of 161
This is just getting really annoying and sad with the forced upgrades.
I just don't get why instead of doing this forcing people against their will, make windows 10 into an OS that people WANT to use.
This is coming from a windows 10 user.
Can't they get in legal trouble in some way?
post #108 of 161
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The thing I don't understand is how Windows updating is any different than getting the latest version of Chrome or Firefox or your Virus scanner....

Also the notion that these machines just magically update themselves is also false- if you just turn off updates everything works fine- we have multiple Windows 7 machines that i'll be updating eventually but not right now- if you don't know how to turn off updates then frankly you should be getting them anyway.

Microsoft is obligated to keep providing Windows 7 with security updates until January 15, 2020. Basically they're breaking their own terms of service by telling people to turn updates off in order to keep their current OS.
Microsoft broke standard practice, telling people to now turn off updates is wrong, it puts computers at risk and shows that Microsoft is trying to harm the existing OS, which many people need for compatibility reasons and rely on for their livelihood.
Really what they're doing is fraudulent, they've effectively broken an existing product in order to coerce people into moving to a completely different license agreement. The only reason you're never going to see anyone take them to court over it is the loose terms that you find in any modern EULA.
post #109 of 161
As mentioned before, the amount of shills is incredible.
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Can linux become a thing yet?

At this point, who knows.
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As crappy as this is, $87,000 is literally nothing to organizations like this. Just call up one of the billionaire donors and ask for a check.
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