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I work as a System Administrator/System Engineer. I work with 6500 Servers daily. We patch once a month and every update that we deploy is vetted in a Staging environment before we push it into production.

People cry foul about Windows 10 because they do not what they are doing. Computer illiteracy is a HUGE problem that goes unnoticed because many people consider themselves Tech Savvy when they are not. I blame this on peoples lack of wanting to figure things out for themselves. Instead they rely on someone to do it for them, stunting their growth. The best way to learn is to just figure it out on your own and research what you don't know. Then build a virtual staging environment and apply the knowledge. I won't claim to know everything because their isn't enough time in the day to master it all. Its better to specialize in 4-5 areas. Relying on Team Make-up to fill out the other specialties.

And this has nothing to do with the case.

They were running computer in a hole in africa monitoring animals. They aren't running 6500 servers. Barely a single PC. They are not server administrators, but just zoologists, the local version of park rangers, who aren't knowledgable about what types of updates they need to don't need, and just like 99% of windows users, just set it to automatic update

If you expect them to have specialised system administrators on site, or go online to OCN to read the daily "windows updates you should not install" like they have most likely never, ever, done before, you are sadly mistaken. As well as everyone else who thinks how people actually running their hope PCs or even office PCs.

I can put money on the fact that most likely they hadn't even know there was a windows 10 update to their current windows, and it just decided to land on them after they connected their computer and did a bulk update after several months of not updating at all because of how microsoft have been moving the update around between patches instead of making it clear.

Then they should get an IT person. They are charged per MB. A few GB burned them for 80k+ in just one update, how big do you think unneeded updates are over the course of a year? More than enough to pay for even a good IT person. They do not have to be on site at all, they just need to change a few settings before the laptop is given to the user.

Your argument is null. Ignorance is not an excuse when this kind of money is on the line. They screwed up, and wasted a ton of their own Other people's money (they are a non-profit), by simply not being competent.
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Then they should get an IT person. They are charged per MB. A few GB burned them for 80k+ in just one update, how big do you think unneeded updates are over the course of a year? More than enough to pay for even a good IT person. They do not have to be on site at all, they just need to change a few settings before the laptop is given to the user.

Your argument is null. Ignorance is not an excuse when this kind of money is on the line. They screwed up, and wasted a ton of their own Other people's money (they are a non-profit), by simply not being competent.

they need an IT person to take care of one computer??

a little excessive, no?

isn't it simpler to not have microsoft cache a windows install image on your pc unless you say "yes i need windows 10 in my life?"

hell, even big scary GOOGLE doesn't make you download their update unless you want to.

and their reason? oh yeah METERED DATA!.
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Then they should get an IT person. They are charged per MB. A few GB burned them for 80k+ in just one update, how big do you think unneeded updates are over the course of a year? More than enough to pay for even a good IT person. They do not have to be on site at all, they just need to change a few settings before the laptop is given to the user.

Your argument is null. Ignorance is not an excuse when this kind of money is on the line. They screwed up, and wasted a ton of their own Other people's money (they are a non-profit), by simply not being competent.

they need an IT person to take care of one computer??

a little excessive, no?

isn't it simpler to not have microsoft cache a windows install image on your pc unless you say "yes i need windows 10 in my life?"

hell, even big scary GOOGLE doesn't make you download their update unless you want to.

and their reason? oh yeah METERED DATA!.

You can turn on Metered data in windows. Except that requires having someone competent again.

And no, a non-profit company/group does not have one computer. Good joke though. They even list someone with the title of IT, who obviously isn't good enough to stop their company from loosing $80k via a well known "issue", or even care to look at all given the massive ISP costs.
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That's it, Windows 10 is just a patch for windows 7 and windows 8. Served via Windows Update (not really, gwx already downloads it regardless what you do except blockers) and auto installed. Service Pack extravaganza.
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You can turn on Metered data in windows. Except that requires having someone competent again.

And no, a non-profit company/group does not have one computer. Good joke though. They even list someone with the title of IT, who obviously isn't good enough to stop their company from loosing $80k via a well known "issue", or even care to look at all given the massive ISP costs.

Probably right. If all their machines are using wireless nics. I always wondered why MS wouldn't make ethernet metered too. There are hard data capped (ethernet) people on earth you know.
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You can turn on Metered data in windows. Except that requires having someone competent again.

And no, a non-profit company/group does not have one computer. Good joke though. They even list someone with the title of IT, who obviously isn't good enough to stop their company from loosing $80k via a well known "issue", or even care to look at all given the massive ISP costs.

Probably right. If all their machines are using wireless nics. I always wondered why MS wouldn't make ethernet metered too. There are hard data capped (ethernet) people on earth you know.

And yet, despite being charged per MB, despite all other Windows patches over the course of a year being more than a few gig (the same as Win10 "patch"), they did not turn off updates. They did not set up a WSUS server to handle their updates.

If it were some little old lady in her home, fine. But this is a company, non-profit or not, and they should have a competent IT staff. Period. One part time IT person could be paid for years for what this one instance cost, and god only knows how much they pay for normal updates. Or website ads.
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Nothing Shady about Windows Updates. Only Computer illiterate users making Microsoft look bad. You can set it up as manual download and install. The NPO is 100% to Blame for breaching their caps.
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You can turn on Metered data in windows. Except that requires having someone competent again.

And no, a non-profit company/group does not have one computer. Good joke though. They even list someone with the title of IT, who obviously isn't good enough to stop their company from loosing $80k via a well known "issue", or even care to look at all given the massive ISP costs.

It says in the article that the "IT Specialist" is nothing more than a pilot that took up extra responsibilities while his plane is out of commission, as he was the most knowledgeable out everyone else.

That IT description given wont mean anything outside of his job with the Not for profit company. I doubt he has any real IT qualifications.
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You can turn on Metered data in windows. Except that requires having someone competent again.

And no, a non-profit company/group does not have one computer. Good joke though. They even list someone with the title of IT, who obviously isn't good enough to stop their company from loosing $80k via a well known "issue", or even care to look at all given the massive ISP costs.

????
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Hi,

Thank you for posting your query on the Microsoft Communities.

There isn't a way to limit the bandwidth of the entire network through Windows. This can only be accomplished from your router and you could contact the router manufacturer for further assistance.

Also, you can make use of some third party program to achieve this goal. Look for the same using your favorite search engine.

Note: This response contains a reference to a third party World Wide Web site. Microsoft is providing this information as a convenience to you. Microsoft does not control these sites and has not tested any software or information found on these sites; therefore, Microsoft cannot make any representations regarding the quality, safety, or suitability of any software or information found there. There are inherent dangers in the use of any software found on the Internet, and Microsoft cautions you to make sure that you completely understand the risk before retrieving any software from the Internet.

Hope this information helps. Do get back to us if you have more queries regarding Windows.

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-networking/is-it-possible-to-limit-windows-7-internet-use-on/574f31a6-cbf1-4a2c-a239-4318bb40d812

you should go to microsofts forum and tell the moderator who works for microsoft he's wrong.
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@ KyadCK

Those laptops are not siting in your typical office building with unlimited internal LAN. A WSUS won't help when all the clients are on satellite link and distributed across a large area in the wild. Whatever traffic you send from the WSUS is still going through the satellites.

I 100% agree they are losing a lot of money with even normal updates though. However poachers are not exactly nice people and the NGOs do have a reason to worry about 0-days. What update strategy will you take if you were taking control of their infrastructure? (Keep in mind that those are donated laptops running whatever version of Windows the OEM decided to go with.)
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Nothing Shady about Windows Updates. Only Computer illiterate users making Microsoft look bad. You can set it up as manual download and install. The NPO is 100% to Blame for breaching their caps.
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You can turn on Metered data in windows. Except that requires having someone competent again.

And no, a non-profit company/group does not have one computer. Good joke though. They even list someone with the title of IT, who obviously isn't good enough to stop their company from loosing $80k via a well known "issue", or even care to look at all given the massive ISP costs.

It says in the article that the "IT Specialist" is nothing more than a pilot that took up extra responsibilities while his plane is out of commission, as he was the most knowledgeable out everyone else.

That IT description given wont mean anything outside of his job with the Not for profit company. I doubt he has any real IT qualifications.

And that's fine, but does not stop what I said. He can be the nicest guy in the world, and the best pilot too for all I know, but he is obviously not a very great IT person.
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You can turn on Metered data in windows. Except that requires having someone competent again.

And no, a non-profit company/group does not have one computer. Good joke though. They even list someone with the title of IT, who obviously isn't good enough to stop their company from loosing $80k via a well known "issue", or even care to look at all given the massive ISP costs.

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Hi,

Thank you for posting your query on the Microsoft Communities.

There isn't a way to limit the bandwidth of the entire network through Windows. This can only be accomplished from your router and you could contact the router manufacturer for further assistance.

Also, you can make use of some third party program to achieve this goal. Look for the same using your favorite search engine.

Note: This response contains a reference to a third party World Wide Web site. Microsoft is providing this information as a convenience to you. Microsoft does not control these sites and has not tested any software or information found on these sites; therefore, Microsoft cannot make any representations regarding the quality, safety, or suitability of any software or information found there. There are inherent dangers in the use of any software found on the Internet, and Microsoft cautions you to make sure that you completely understand the risk before retrieving any software from the Internet.

Hope this information helps. Do get back to us if you have more queries regarding Windows.

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-networking/is-it-possible-to-limit-windows-7-internet-use-on/574f31a6-cbf1-4a2c-a239-4318bb40d812

you should go to microsofts forum and tell the moderator who works for microsoft he's wrong.

Yea, you misunderstood his context. His statement is completely true, because one windows computer can not limit the bandwidth or usage of another PC, which is why he said;
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There isn't a way to limit the bandwidth of the entire network through Windows.

Anyway, 10 minutes on google gave me the following.

http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/monitor-internet-usage/

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https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windowsserver/en-US/0a46b8ac-0b16-4b87-a881-260c8d5609f7/disabling-windows-update-via-group-policy?forum=winserverGP

I will admit that Win7 itself does not have a max-cap setting (which is useless here), or an ability to disable updates based on the network you choose to be on. Buuuut, A "metered" connection in any OS does not prevent you from doing anything, and you can meter your connection. The apps above give you some automation and warnings, but Resource Monitor and in fact even Task Manager will gladly tell you how much data something used. I'm going to follow this up with semantics now;

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/metered
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an instrument for measuring, especially one that automatically measures and records the quantity of something, as of gas, water, miles, or time, when it is activated.

So, are you actually trying to problem solve, or are you going to continue to excuse them because they're nice people? Should they be forgiven and the plane company pointed out if they let their planes fail due to lack of proper care, leading to massive repair costs? Or should they have actually maintained the plane properly in this hypothetical?
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@ KyadCK

Those laptops are not siting in your typical office building with unlimited internal LAN. A WSUS won't help when all the clients are on satellite link and distributed across a large area in the wild. Whatever traffic you send from the WSUS is still going through the satellites.

I 100% agree they are losing a lot of money with even normal updates though. However poachers are not exactly nice people and the NGOs do have a reason to worry about 0-days. What update strategy will you take if you were taking control of their infrastructure? (Keep in mind that those are donated laptops running whatever version of Windows the OEM decided to go with.)

You do seem like you're asking questions instead of trying to forgive them blindly, so please understand this is just a rant about what they are doing...

They have to come back some day, don't they? Update when you get back, or have a up-to-date ready-to-go laptop waiting for them to trade off, not in the field off a satellite connection. Even more so when this laptop is used for "life critical use cases". Even forgetting the cost, why would you ever let your PC update if you need absolute up-time.

You are never going to seriously convince me that poachers will use a zero-day to hack a laptop that runs off satellite (from their own satellite laptop no less under most circumstances) without physical access to the computer. Even if you did convince me of that, it's called a Firewall and VPN to the main network... which can also do WSUS updates on anything deemed important! Except you limit them to only what is important. Not that new version of .NET, not Silverlight, or anything else. If you completely disable updates except from WSUS, things like Win10 don't happen assuming you actually read change logs.

I also do not give even the slightest care in the world how they got their laptops. It simply, and truly, does not matter. It has a programmable x86 CPU with an OS, you can edit GPOs and Registry, and frankly anything else you want, just like any other PC. The IT person should not be some user without admin access, they should have total control and be able to gut the thing and move on, no matter if it's a Toshiba laptop from 2008 or a brand new Thinkpad. You can do some really funky stuff with Windows (or any OS) if you want to. If you believe Windows is too far outside your control, you can always try some Linux distro.
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