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Very well, you have a point and I respect it.
Then the only base that remains is personal entities, your average Joes and Janes on metered connections. Sadly, it is 2016 and still so many people have horrible Internet.

Well, I assume at those rates they are using a sat link rather than anything terrestrial. In which case, it should only ever be use for business specific access. Again, a problem solvable by better policies in the organization and better network security and access practices.

Like was said above, lack of proper IT results in Microsoft getting blamed. This whole debacle just screams clickbait. Ignorance does not excuse bad behavior.
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Very well, you have a point and I respect it.
Then the only base that remains is personal entities, your average Joes and Janes on metered connections. Sadly, it is 2016 and still so many people have horrible Internet.

Well, I assume at those rates they are using a sat link rather than anything terrestrial. In which case, it should only ever be use for business specific access. Again, a problem solvable by better policies in the organization and better network security and access practices.

Like was said above, lack of proper IT results in Microsoft getting blamed. This whole debacle just screams clickbait. Ignorance does not excuse bad behavior.

But I am not talking about organizations alone.
You are breaking my post into segments thus omitting context.
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But I am not talking about organizations alone.
You are breaking my post into segments thus omitting context.

No. You don't get to play that game.

The user or owner of the network is responsible for its implementation. There is no copping out of that. They are at fault for their bad implementation. If I can get a person with a sub 100 IQ to get better results over the phone, the organization is at fault. Ignorance is not an excuse. Being a NGO does not get you a free pass to be an idiot or fool when implementing your network.
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Maybe that will finally teach them that if they have satellite connection it is a good idea to disable automatic updates, even shut the connection down when not using it. But hey at least Win10 has P2P updates so they may pay less in the future for Win updates tongue.gif

It's a user freakin' error, not MS fault that someone can't setup their system and network properly to make it dumb proof.
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No. You don't get to play that game.

The user or owner of the network is responsible for its implementation. There is no copping out of that. They are at fault for their bad implementation. If I can get a person with a sub 100 IQ to get better results over the phone, the organization is at fault. Ignorance is not an excuse. Being a NGO does not get you a free pass to be an idiot or fool when implementing your network.

so your saying that everyone who has been hack, or will be hack are at fault... nice one dimensional thinking thumb.gif there is hardly ever a black or white, there is only grey
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But I am not talking about organizations alone.
You are breaking my post into segments thus omitting context.

No. You don't get to play that game.

The user or owner of the network is responsible for its implementation. There is no copping out of that. They are at fault for their bad implementation. If I can get a person with a sub 100 IQ to get better results over the phone, the organization is at fault. Ignorance is not an excuse. Being a NGO does not get you a free pass to be an idiot or fool when implementing your network.

I am talking about people at home, homes with people who are not at work in their homes.
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This thread is full of people suffering from Stockholm syndrome, siding with their abuser and justifying their every psychopathic move.

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So when someone continues to cause damage it is the media's fault for continuing to follow up on it?

Who's forcing you to use the "damage causing" MS products??? Someone holding a gun to your head saying you must???

You're free to use whatever OS or device you want. Feel free to do so at anytime.

You're welcome. Enjoy your liberation from the "evil" M$.

Telling people what's going on after the fact does nothing to negate the damage.

Quite frankly I'm surprised there isn't some kind of law preventing a software company that maintains the bulk of computer infrastructure around the world from pulling stupid stunts like this.
The point is that no one could have predicted that a global industry standard software company was going to go haywire and wreak havok across the globe in their attempt to stay relevant.
Except for everyone inside Microsoft that is.
These people knew full well what the ramifications of their actions were, their intentions are borderline malicious.

Microsoft owes the wildlife preserve $87,000.

Obviously no one in the future is going to rely on Microsoft for software that needs to run with any serious degree of user control, but in the meantime millions of people are left paying the bill for all the chaos left in the wake of what will probably go down in history as the most destructive marketing ploy in history.
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https://twitter.com/tonroosendaal/status/739043969485688832

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Superfun.

Posted in another thread a couple days ago.
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Their own fault , if they had turned off automatic updates then this would not have happened
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