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The thing is, for me, rubber grommets are also a good thing to better hide your cables. There is a reason why all the rubber grommets other manufacturers use not only go over the metal edges, but also reach inside.
Right now I can clearly see the backside of my 303 through the cutouts with the cables behind it, which would definitely look better with grommets. Then there also is for example the large cutout below the motherboard when using an mATX-Board, which is definitely great for cable-management, but it would simply look better with a grommet than just having this huge gaping hole down there for only 3 cables. A grommet would just hide the not so beautiful cutouts better. And let's be honest. I personally have not seen any case, even pretty cheap ones, with cutouts that had sharp enough edges to cut myself at or the cables that I route through them.

Long story short: Rubber grommets simply look better than naked holes.

If you at In Win do not think that it's necessary, you definitely have your reasons and of course way more experience than I have at what you do (and you mainly do a great job at it by the way ^^) but I would love to have the option. Maybe you could consider to offer sets of rubber grommets seperately for maybe 10€ or something like that. I would definitely love it smile.gif

It's certainly not unreasonable to request. This is one of the main reason we are present on Overclock, to receive feedback. Sometimes it is good to take a step back and see different perspectives, especially from our valued patrons. smile.gif
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I know that there is an In Win employee reading here every once in a while, so I've got a direct question, even if I think that it has already been brought up a few times:

Why do you guys not use rubber grommets? It would be so much cleaner with only a very minor impact on production-costs. I would even love to be able to buy them seperately.
The 303C has no rubber grommets again...... Just..... Why?

I could of done with knowing about the 303c a while ago, the all white would look amazing for me!

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Finally blocked my 1080 SC, just finished 10mins ago lol. . 

 

     
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Good to get some more measurement data, isn't it? People have said the delta for the GPU should be lower.. but yours is in line with mine (although mine is a 1080 vs 1070). What stands out is that you run higher (1000) rpm fans, with lower TDP components.. and while prime + valley is a more taxing load .. the water temp seems a bit high for that. I can't really judge the CPU as the 5820K is quite different from yours both thermally and in TDP.

I'll do a run this weekend with the same/similar load and fans at 1000rpm for a bit fairer comparison.
If it's doable, you could also try run to my setup with the bottom as exhaust and see what that does for you.

The one thing I do find with the 303 versus my much similar system in the Define S .. is that the ambient temperature within the case is higher. In the end where my Define S water temp would +8C over the intake temp under Doom 3, now at the air in the front of the case is already +8C and I get +12 C for the water.
Would be tough for me to change out the fans to exhaust from intake as I would have to take it apart. Another difference we probably have though is I also set up my rear fan as intake to make a slight positive air pressure and I'm using EK Pastel Blue. Honestly I'm leaning more on more on me just probably needing to clean my blocks and making sure they are mounted properly which will probably have to wait till I get back from a vacation. I'm thinking of doing hard tubing soon anyways. Well we are definitely picking this case for looks xD
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Would be tough for me to change out the fans to exhaust from intake as I would have to take it apart. Another difference we probably have though is I also set up my rear fan as intake to make a slight positive air pressure and I'm using EK Pastel Blue. Honestly I'm leaning more on more on me just probably needing to clean my blocks and making sure they are mounted properly which will probably have to wait till I get back from a vacation. I'm thinking of doing hard tubing soon anyways. Well we are definitely picking this case for looks xD
Yes I share your sentiment on that: it's such a pretty box - even my wife likes it. It does run pretty quiet with all the vents facing away from me. The quiet aspect is more important to me than shaving off some degrees.. although..well, better airflow allows lower fan speeds.

Anyway I just ran something similar as you, with the fans at 1000rpm fans. Prime95 + Valley with 111W load on the CPU to match your 6700K. After about 20 minutes, it was still rising slightly but I got these temps:
Intake at back of case/ Ambient 25 C (room is about 24C)
Front of case 32.3 C
Water 34.4C
CPU Max Core 75C
GPU 55C

Btw I'm also using EK Pastel Blue but yes fully negative pressure. Air even gets sucked through the gaps of the window :-)
I did go hardtube..but it does make trying out different setups much harder. Should have first put a soft tube in. I'll try the bottom intake at some point.

In the end though, my machine is now 30-31 dbA @ 1m according to my iPhone's SPLnFFT app. The fans run between 450-600 rpm - this ramps up from the water being +4C to +8C over ambient and that's it. I have not seen my water temperature reach +14C under any game. It's usually between +9C and +13C. So it's pretty & runs quiet. I don't think you've got much to worry about either.
     
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post #1606 of 1695
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Originally Posted by 44TZL View Post

Yes I share your sentiment on that: it's such a pretty box - even my wife likes it. It does run pretty quiet with all the vents facing away from me. The quiet aspect is more important to me than shaving off some degrees.. although..well, better airflow allows lower fan speeds.

Anyway I just ran something similar as you, with the fans at 1000rpm fans. Prime95 + Valley with 111W load on the CPU to match your 6700K. After about 20 minutes, it was still rising slightly but I got these temps:
Intake at back of case/ Ambient 25 C (room is about 24C)
Front of case 32.3 C
Water 34.4C
CPU Max Core 75C
GPU 55C

Btw I'm also using EK Pastel Blue but yes fully negative pressure. Air even gets sucked through the gaps of the window :-)
I did go hardtube..but it does make trying out different setups much harder. Should have first put a soft tube in. I'll try the bottom intake at some point.

In the end though, my machine is now 30-31 dbA @ 1m according to my iPhone's SPLnFFT app. The fans run between 450-600 rpm - this ramps up from the water being +4C to +8C over ambient and that's it. I have not seen my water temperature reach +14C under any game. It's usually between +9C and +13C. So it's pretty & runs quiet. I don't think you've got much to worry about either.
How come you went with a negative air pressure? But yah I know it's not that bad temps but still could be better! My dbA is around 35 at 3 feet from my computer according to sound meter app on my note 4. I do want to replace my psu now though cause it is the loudest thing in my pc (1000 g2 supernova). I am planning to run the GPU and CPU parallel when I go hard tubing so that might increase temps too and even maybe mod the case to mount the gpu to be vertical if I can find an easy way to do it cause it looks so cool that way.
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It's certainly not unreasonable to request. This is one of the main reason we are present on Overclock, to receive feedback. Sometimes it is good to take a step back and see different perspectives, especially from our valued patrons. smile.gif

The problem I had was: Why not making the hole higher and narrower?, because the hole for the 24 pin is clearly too large. soon enough, I tonice that it's impossible due to the SSD mount behind, so maybe relocate one SSD to the bottom of the motherboard tray?


another thing, is it possible to add a low profile USB 3.0 extension for the header? I think I lot of us with newer motherboard (like my ; Asus Crosshair VI Hero) can't use the front USB 3.0
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I de-riveted my case and this black piece fell out. I suspect it has something to do with the front IO panel, but I can't make heads or tails out of this. I'll keep poking through previous pics, but in the interest of shortcuts, can anyone help a fellow modder out?
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I de-riveted my case and this black piece fell out. I suspect it has something to do with the front IO panel, but I can't make heads or tails out of this. I'll keep poking through previous pics, but in the interest of shortcuts, can anyone help a fellow modder out?

I think you're on the right track, that piece looks like the one that slots in
just about where the blue plastic trim of the io panel ends. I guess it's there to prevent the backlight from shining through the power button and reset led. smile.gif
Edited by iBerggman - 4/23/17 at 4:01pm
post #1610 of 1695
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I think you're on the right track, that piece looks like the one that slots in
just about where the blue plastic trim ends. I guess it's there to prevent the backlight from shining through the power button and reset led. smile.gif

Perfect fit. Thanks.

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