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How come you went with a negative air pressure? But yah I know it's not that bad temps but still could be better! My dbA is around 35 at 3 feet from my computer according to sound meter app on my note 4. I do want to replace my psu now though cause it is the loudest thing in my pc (1000 g2 supernova). I am planning to run the GPU and CPU parallel when I go hard tubing so that might increase temps too and even maybe mod the case to mount the gpu to be vertical if I can find an easy way to do it cause it looks so cool that way.
I went with negative pressure because of the case design but also (a) I don't believe in blowing hot air back inside the PC .. nor feeding hot air to the top rad >> no cooling (b) it worked brilliantly my Define S build with +8C/ambient max (c) I don't really care for nor have much dust - I believe not taking in front the bottom and low fan rpm helps a lot. I run not filters ever and only end up cleaning some dust off twice a year.

There's is one config which I still consider that could work very well: run a 420+120 and have 3 fans at the bottom for intake. I sort of suspect this could even beat the 420+360 setup with way more cold air being blown in and a more directed airflow. Anyway my white rad at the bottom looks pretty good IMO, especially now that I covered the bottom of the case with black sound insulation material that makes the rad 'float' (+block air coming back in)



Regarding the quiet path.. yes you'll end up moving down the chain.. for me it went GPU card noise > fan noise > AIO pump noise > PSU noise > fan bearing noise is now the loudest thing subjectively - but it's absolutely fine - at day time I don't really hear the PC. I'm going to try the Silent Wings 3 & Corsair MLs soon to see if that could improve it. With this InWIn 303 build, I went with a much quieter PSU as it was the loudest thing in my Define S build when over 250W load.. the Corsair RM650x and 550x that I have now are both extremely quiet while still not Seasonic Prime expensive :-)

Your parallel GPU/CPU idea should be completely fine thermally - it will even help reduce the overall loop flow restriction. Water only varies 1-2C in the whole loop and the waterblocks don't need much flow to operate as water has such high capacity for holding heat.. so even if one gets more flow than the other.. it still will do it's job totally fine. I may do this as well in the future. I saw Jays 2 cents Phanteks Enthoo Evolv build.. and that looked very cool.

edit I've ordered a set of 120mm and 140mm ML fans so I'll try bottom intake variation as well.
Edited by 44TZL - 4/23/17 at 11:52pm
     
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post #1612 of 1695
that looks great! what would you day the difficulty of this mod is?
post #1613 of 1695
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I went with negative pressure because of the case design but also (a) I don't believe in blowing hot air back inside the PC .. nor feeding hot air to the top rad >> no cooling (b) it worked brilliantly my Define S build with +8C/ambient max (c) I don't really care for nor have much dust - I believe not taking in front the bottom and low fan rpm helps a lot. I run not filters ever and only end up cleaning some dust off twice a year.

There's is one config which I still consider that could work very well: run a 420+120 and have 3 fans at the bottom for intake. I sort of suspect this could even beat the 420+360 setup with way more cold air being blown in and a more directed airflow. Anyway my white rad at the bottom looks pretty good IMO, especially now that I covered the bottom of the case with black sound insulation material that makes the rad 'float' (+block air coming back in)



Regarding the quiet path.. yes you'll end up moving down the chain.. for me it went GPU card noise > fan noise > AIO pump noise > PSU noise > fan bearing noise is now the loudest thing subjectively - but it's absolutely fine - at day time I don't really hear the PC. I'm going to try the Silent Wings 3 & Corsair MLs soon to see if that could improve it. With this InWIn 303 build, I went with a much quieter PSU as it was the loudest thing in my Define S build when over 250W load.. the Corsair RM650x and 550x that I have now are both extremely quiet while still not Seasonic Prime expensive :-)

Your parallel GPU/CPU idea should be completely fine thermally - it will even help reduce the overall loop flow restriction. Water only varies 1-2C in the whole loop and the waterblocks don't need much flow to operate as water has such high capacity for holding heat.. so even if one gets more flow than the other.. it still will do it's job totally fine. I may do this as well in the future. I saw Jays 2 cents Phanteks Enthoo Evolv build.. and that looked very cool.

edit I've ordered a set of 120mm and 140mm ML fans so I'll try bottom intake variation as well.

I get what you are saying and I can see how hot air can flow back in the case especially running a rear fan intake. Don't think it'll make much difference in temp though. And you must not live in a place with a lot of dust. I heard of those PSUs with a fanless mode will most likely pick one up maybe when I go hard tubing along with better cable extensions from cable mod or something I want a lighter color blue. Tempted to get thermaltakes rgb fittings but I hear the quality of their stuff isnt too great. And personally I do like the white rad you have at the bottom looks really nice. Did you paint em or were they just originally white? And the 420 at the top looks way better than 360 tbh they just fill the space at the top better wish I did that but wasn't sure how. I definitely do recommend ml120s though as you can ramp em up to 1000 rpm like me and not even notice the difference, I'm thinking of even changing out the 3 ek vardars I have because the ml120 just sound way better and they are plenty bright by themselves so they might add a cool underglow for my pc at night lol
Here is hows it looking so far:
post #1614 of 1695
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Originally Posted by Delo View Post

I get what you are saying and I can see how hot air can flow back in the case especially running a rear fan intake. Don't think it'll make much difference in temp though. And you must not live in a place with a lot of dust. I heard of those PSUs with a fanless mode will most likely pick one up maybe when I go hard tubing along with better cable extensions from cable mod or something I want a lighter color blue. Tempted to get thermaltakes rgb fittings but I hear the quality of their stuff isnt too great. And personally I do like the white rad you have at the bottom looks really nice. Did you paint em or were they just originally white? And the 420 at the top looks way better than 360 tbh they just fill the space at the top better wish I did that but wasn't sure how. I definitely do recommend ml120s though as you can ramp em up to 1000 rpm like me and not even notice the difference, I'm thinking of even changing out the 3 ek vardars I have because the ml120 just sound way better and they are plenty bright by themselves so they might add a cool underglow for my pc at night lol
Here is hows it looking so far:


I basically have the same configuration of fans.
post #1615 of 1695
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I basically have the same configuration of fans.

Nice what is that Team Rocket color scheme? haha Defnitely like it. Where'd you get the stickers to cover the corsair fan stickers?
post #1616 of 1695
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Originally Posted by Delo View Post

I get what you are saying and I can see how hot air can flow back in the case especially running a rear fan intake. Don't think it'll make much difference in temp though. And you must not live in a place with a lot of dust. I heard of those PSUs with a fanless mode will most likely pick one up maybe when I go hard tubing along with better cable extensions from cable mod or something I want a lighter color blue. Tempted to get thermaltakes rgb fittings but I hear the quality of their stuff isnt too great. And personally I do like the white rad you have at the bottom looks really nice. Did you paint em or were they just originally white? And the 420 at the top looks way better than 360 tbh they just fill the space at the top better wish I did that but wasn't sure how. I definitely do recommend ml120s though as you can ramp em up to 1000 rpm like me and not even notice the difference, I'm thinking of even changing out the 3 ek vardars I have because the ml120 just sound way better and they are plenty bright by themselves so they might add a cool underglow for my pc at night lol
Here is hows it looking so far:
Good looking setup you've got. I noticed too that purple light really brings out the that blue pastel (and sends my iphone camera in a spin!).


Regarding the bottom rad, it came like that. Hardware Labs has white models for their GTS and SR2 range.

For the PSU...if you want your PC to be quiet at load.. my advise - do not select on fanless mode, but select a PSU that is quiet with the fan on. I made that mistake with the last PSU and it was annoying once it came on. The RM650x stays under 24 dbA across all of the power range my system actually uses... . Toms' Hardware has good graphs to compare PSU noise for the whole load range.

I like the Vardars .. they have a perfect square frame so no air leaks on a radiator... and they push a lot more air than other fans at the same RPM plus the fan noise is very agreeable.. but their double ball bearing, while durable, are less suited for sub-750 rpm operation where the bearing noise takes over from the air/fins noise... so a fluid bearing (Silent Wings 3) or magnetic bearing (Corsair MLs) will suit low RPM setups better. Looking forward to trying it out .. minus the replacing those fan under the bottom rad rolleyes.gif
Edited by 44TZL - 4/25/17 at 12:11am
     
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EK Thermosphere Generic GPU waterblock EK Duraclear tubing & fittings Windows 10 Logitech K400 Plus Wireless Keyboard 
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post #1617 of 1695
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Nice what is that Team Rocket color scheme? haha Defnitely like it. Where'd you get the stickers to cover the corsair fan stickers?

It's the AMD/RTG Color theme haha. made the sticker myself.
post #1618 of 1695
Is there a list of what 420mm rads fit up top? Either with or without modding.
post #1619 of 1695
I've seen mostly EK 140 rads in 303 builds, so i would say 420 SE & PE are good choices.
post #1620 of 1695
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Is there a list of what 420mm rads fit up top? Either with or without modding.

Mine is an Alphacool NexXos ST30 420mm
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