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So I have been dealing with this problem for a month or two now and it's starting to get annoying. Every time I power on my computer it's basically luck whether it actually POSTs or not. I am 90% sure the issue is the RAM. If the computer POSTs everything works fine, no instability, nothing crashes, no BSODs etc but occasionally it just doesn't boot at all. The solution is to power off at the wall, wait a few seconds and try again, usually greeting me with an overclocking failed screen (RAM is actually running lower than rated speeds (3200) at 2133 due to the fact 3200 will not POST more often than it does) however without changing any settings it will boot fine. 5960X is overclocked to 4.5GHz however it has been rock-solid stable in OS since I set it up and even at stock speeds won't POST with RAM at rated speeds. Rated voltage is 1.35v but even at 1.4v it was still an issue. Lately I have just been putting the computer to sleep, it wakes up 90% of the time without problems, however it occasionally does hang regardless.

Does this sound like a RAM problem? I have tried updating the BIOS and I'm currently on the latest version (last time I checked).

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My Dad built a few computers for his office with ASRock z97 boards and i7 4770s, He used one of the ripjaws series memory kits and in 2 out of 5 computers they would do a similar thing to what yours is doing. He ended up RMAing the boards and the new ones worked fine. Hopefully it's not your motherboard.
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I really do hope it's not the motherboard...at least RAM isn't ridiculously expensive + easy to replace...

I guess I'll see if anyone else has any ideas but it seems like the motherboard is a possibility I'll need to look into...
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How many sticks do you have in there?
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How many sticks do you have in there?

4 in Quad-Channel. Upon having another look it seems the description reads 'Dual-Channel' but I purchased it in the 4x8GB configuration shown by the link. Could that be a problem?
post #6 of 17
You wouldn't think so. I have two dual channel kits in my x79 board at work and that's fine. Since you have quad channel it's still only one stick per channel. When you have 2 sticks per channel it starts loading down the memory controller with extra capacitance and limits you. Just for the heck of it, have you tried running like 1600MHz just to see if that makes it stable?

Hey also, what timings are you running at 2133?
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Is it a gigabyte motherboard? Reason I ask is mine does this with my i5 2500K @ 4.2 with only LLC set to high, voltage on auto but never goes above 1.38~. I think what is in play is the voltage is to low at the start for the OC (without manual offset). This then triggers the mobo to think something is wrong and re-start. Once you get the juice (multi starts, more voltage within your PSU) it then starts up and acts normal. Mine does this pretty much every start, with 0-4 failed attempts (however this does not result in a reset of settings or OC warnings). I would bet if you dialed back the OC to say normal 4.2 you would NOT see this behavior. I do not think the ram is issue, I think its purely the OC without using manual/offset voltage. I also think that nothing is wrong. My PC has been doing this for 3-4 years, with maybe 5 BSOD's (but were bad GFX drivers through event-viewer).

I would also check to make sure your timings are not off + ram voltage is correct - I run my 2133 ram @ 9,10,10,26 T1 @ default (what ram sticks say to run voltage).
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You wouldn't think so. I have two dual channel kits in my x79 board at work and that's fine. Since you have quad channel it's still only one stick per channel. When you have 2 sticks per channel it starts loading down the memory controller with extra capacitance and limits you. Just for the heck of it, have you tried running like 1600MHz just to see if that makes it stable?

Hey also, what timings are you running at 2133?

Haven't tried anything below 2133, it's the default speed the motherboard uses with factory defaults, will try 1600MHz when I get home tomorrow night. No clue on the timings, as I said, just running defaults right now.

When I ran it at 3200 I used XMP, so it was using rated timings, speed and voltage.
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Is it a gigabyte motherboard? Reason I ask is mine does this with my i5 2500K @ 4.2 with only LLC set to high, voltage on auto but never goes above 1.38~. I think what is in play is the voltage is to low at the start for the OC (without manual offset). This then triggers the mobo to think something is wrong and re-start. Once you get the juice (multi starts, more voltage within your PSU) it then starts up and acts normal. Mine does this pretty much every start, with 0-4 failed attempts (however this does not result in a reset of settings or OC warnings). I would bet if you dialed back the OC to say normal 4.2 you would NOT see this behavior. I do not think the ram is issue, I think its purely the OC without using manual/offset voltage. I also think that nothing is wrong. My PC has been doing this for 3-4 years, with maybe 5 BSOD's (but were bad GFX drivers through event-viewer).

I would also check to make sure your timings are not off + ram voltage is correct - I run my 2133 ram @ 9,10,10,26 T1 @ default (what ram sticks say to run voltage).

It's an ASUS board, Rampage V Extreme. Also, I have my voltage set manually, do you think offset would be better?
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default RAM settings, in my experience, are garbage. I have had so many boards put total crap in there that makes no sense.

Set it to XMP, then change it to manual. The XMP numbers should stay. Now leave the timings and voltages at the XMP values, but back it down to 1600 or 2133 MHz. If it doesn't run with those settings it's most likely something else.

How long have you been using the rig this way? The fact that sometimes it will turn on leans me toward the board. Something's not always initializing in the right sequence or something. Like the memory voltage regulators could be stabilizing after the thing tries to POST the memory. crazy crap like that. Boards are so complex there's no way we'll ever really know. Can't measure it like some embedded system board that's a few orders of magnitude simpler haha.
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