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I have a Friend in Warsaw, Poland with an OK but older gaming rig.
She doesn't have much if any real spare money, so I've been trying to help here fix issues and problems with her computer over the last few months
(new RAM, New HDD and SSD drives, New mouse, New Power Supply Unit)

Well in an effort to help her replace a failed PSU recently, dealing with this outfit called Sferis.pl in Poland, the company took my money for a product they didn't have in stock and couldn't deliver to her, and they are now giving me the run around at refunding the money to my USA account because they had used some third party company (U-pay or something ?) to process the transaction. So I'm wondering, the amount they owe me, might be enough to her to replace her current Motherboard and Computer Case, and then upgrade her CPU chip later on ... but only if this upgrade path is feasible .... I went elsewhere to replace her PSU already, didn't want the delay.

Currently she has an AMD Phenom II x4 955 Black edition CPU, on an ASUS M4A78LT Motherboard, I've sent her 16 GB of Corsair Vengeance RAM DDR3 that was left over when I upgraded to 32 GB of RAM. She has a NEW Corsair RM 750 x 80 plus Gold 750w power supply now, a 4 TB Toshiba HDD, a Crucial 128 GB SSD drive, WIN 7 PRO 64 bit. She also has an AMD Sapphire HD 6850 1GB GPU, which I will send her one of my old R9 290X cards once I upgrade my GPU's soon.


So here's what Sferis has in stock and the upgrade path for her I was thinking ....

- replace old ASUS M4A78LT { https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/M4A78LT/ } Motherboard ....

with Newer ASUS 970 PRO Gaming AURA MoBo { https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/970-PRO-GAMING-AURA/ } ....

or /

with Newer GIGABYTE GA-990X - Gaming SLI MoBo { http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5774#ov } ....

BUT ! will her current AMD Phenom II x4 955 Black edition CPU be compatible with either board until we can afford to upgrade her CPU ?
Seems it SHOULD be with at least the ASUS 970 PRO Gaming, however it wasn't on the approved CPU list on ASUS's website ?


Stage two of upgrade her CPU to one of ... AMD FX X8 - 8350 or AMD FX X8 - 8370

WOULD this be ENOUGH of an ' UPGRADE ' to make it worthwhile over her AMD Phenom II x4 955 Black edition ?

Considering ... as is now her computer IS working ! and sure I'd RATHER get my money back from SFeris, BUT it seems may be more of a hassle the way they are responding (btw did I mention F' this company NEVER USE THEM mad.gif ! I did oh ? LOL), and this would help upgrade and stabilize her computer issues for some time to come ... is this upgrade path possible ? worth it ? don't bother ! just get my $$$ back any way possible ! tongue.gif

Thanks in advance for any advice and recommendations ! thumb.gif
   
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I am using a 955 right now. Does a fine job for most game with 7970. I do not think you need to upgrade the CPU. If you do I would get something other than AMD or wait for Zen. GPU upgrade is a must. Also the CPU can be OCed without adding Voltage. Could probably get 3.6-3.8GHz with stock volts.
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as for compatibility on the Asus pro Aura, there are other Deneb chip on the support CPU list so one would assume it should work.

i Can't really suggest a gigabyte board due to the the Bios issues, that or i'm just an asus fan boy drooling over and evga board for my next potental upgrade..

and an FX 8 core would be a noticeable upgrade over a quad core deneb chip
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I'd go with Asus 970 pro. The FX-8370 is a good chip, but try and find the E version. It'll run cooler and consume less power.
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Another vote for the ASUS Aura.
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Biggest concern I have is ... are we 100% sure she could use her existing Phenom II x4 955 CPU in the ASUS 970 PRO AURA ?


https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/970-PRO-GAMING-AURA/HelpDesk_CPU/


... the Phenom II X4 965 IS on the Approved CPU list, so you'd THINK yes ... but the 955 is NOT on the list ??? Spec's for the 955 and 965 are basically the same right ?


It will take another 3-4 months before I could help her again with upgrading the CPU chip so she would HAVE to use her existing one for awhile still !


@ ZealotKi11er ... yeah I know her HD 6850 GPU is a weak link, but I am waiting to see what AMD has up it's sleeve for POLARIS and maybe even VEGA, so I can upgrade myself and then pass on my old R9 290x's to someone else, one to her and one to another buddy ... not sure the RX 480 is enough of a jump ? ... see IF they have a RX 490X in the works, or ? ... though then again TWO of the 480's to replace my TWO R9 290x's would at least make my room COOLER rolleyes.gif

The other upgrades are mainly due to the situation I find myself in as a result in the BS from dealing with SFeris.pl .... IF she can get them to give me the money back somehow, I guess I'd rather do that and not bother helping her upgrade at this time, and wait for ZEN or upgrade her to an Intel MoBo and i5 or i7 ... but this was an option I was debating and appreciate everyone's feedback, thank you. thumb.gif
   
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Biggest concern I have is ... are we 100% sure she could use her existing Phenom II x4 955 CPU in the ASUS 970 PRO AURA ?


https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/970-PRO-GAMING-AURA/HelpDesk_CPU/


... the Phenom II X4 965 IS on the Approved CPU list, so you'd THINK yes ... but the 955 is NOT on the list ??? Spec's for the 955 and 965 are basically the same right ?


:

I think any AM3 CPU will work. They simply don't bother to list all CPUs. I had the same happen with Asrock and emailed them and the reply was "yeah, we forgot to update all models, but it's intended that they are all covered".

If you want to be 100% certain, drop an email to ASUS support and ask. But i think it's not an issue, i think they simply didn't bother to list all AM3 CPUs, because they are not in the market anymore and so they worry more about the FX line. But there is no electrical reason why the motherboard wouldn't support them.
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The FX octo is a massive upgrade for current games. If your friend will use a 290X she will get around 100% more performance in games like The Witcher 3, Battlefront, Doom, GTA V etc. Hell ,years ago, i even saw 50-100% higher FPS going from a 3.5GHz Athlon AM3 quad to my current FX8320 using just a 560ti. One vote for the Asus board from me. No contest .
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That's the biggest complaint about the AURA (from Newegg review):
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Cons: The rgb and all “aura” features could be better. The audio lighting next to the rear io stays a steady red all the time only the pro gaming logo changes color. You can set the logo over the south bridge as a solid color by using the aura software but when you turn the computer off it goes right back to cycling through the colors. Each time you turn the pc on you have to re-open the software and change the setting again. No idea why they made it so the aura software can’t change the lighting permanently. You can turn the lighting off in the bios but not fix it as one color.


I post it because it seems that basically, everytime you reboot, you get rainbow effect (it changes colour every few seconds), since the setting from the software doesn't "stick".

For me, that's very annoying, even if i don't have windowed cases. If your friend has windowed case, she may or may not be bothered. Otherwise, great board.
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