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So I got a new corsair H115i and the new Phantek evolv atx tempered glass case, replacing my hyper 212 evo and my haf 932 case.

Basically my idle temps and load temps are about the same (all within 5-10C of the old hyper 212 and the new h115i)

Is it because my old haf 932 case (4 intake fans, 3 exhaust) had more airflow than the new phantek (2 intake fans, 1 rear exhaust, 2 radiator exhaust fans) I have?

idle is around 40C and load is about mid 70C while gaming.

My buddy has a 780T corsair case and a 6700k @ 4GHz and h115i and gets like 25C idle temps and 45load while gaming with me.
I am overclocked to 4.56GHz @ 1.275v as opposed to his 4GHz.

Can't understand why, we both live in the same area and don't run the A/C but his build runs much cooler.

I don't think it would be improper seating of the h115i because the screws all screwed all the way down. Idk, any help is much appreciated.
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The hyper 212 is a great aircooling unit, in my experience its hard to beat. There are some air coolers that perform just as well as AIO units. Also did you remove the plastic film from the bottom of the block?

I do feel that the EVOLV is an intake restrictive case, that could be your problem. Try taking off the front panel for a little and see if anything changes.
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A good way to test is to pull off the side panel and see if your temps drop,as far as airflow goes.
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The hyper 212 is a great aircooling unit, in my experience its hard to beat. There are some air coolers that perform just as well as AIO units. Also did you remove the plastic film from the bottom of the block?

I do feel that the EVOLV is an intake restrictive case, that could be your problem. Try taking off the front panel for a little and see if anything changes.

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A good way to test is to pull off the side panel and see if your temps drop,as far as airflow goes.

I did not notice any plastic film over the actual copper + thermal paste on the waterblock, It only had a hard plastic cover that covered it that I removed. I'm pretty certain.

And yeah I will have to try to just remove the side panel and see if it does anything. If it doesn't, the only thing I can think of is reaseting the h115i again.

Also remembered my fans are at 1400rpm and his are at 1800-1900rpm. Don't think that is a big enough difference to justfiy that large of a temp change
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I did not notice any plastic film over the actual copper + thermal paste on the waterblock, It only had a hard plastic cover that covered it that I removed. I'm pretty certain.

And yeah I will have to try to just remove the side panel and see if it does anything. If it doesn't, the only thing I can think of is reaseting the h115i again.

Also remembered my fans are at 1400rpm and his are at 1800-1900rpm. Don't think that is a big enough difference to justfiy that large of a temp change

My fault, I forgot they come with that hard plastic covering over the block.
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Phanteks Evolv front intake is slightly restrictive and require 2x140mm fans at around 1000-1200rpm to compensate. Granted Evolv has better airflow than HAF932 (front fan do not count)
The fan speed can make a difference on H115i. With the stock fans not being good due to the frame design and poor static pressure.
Your friend clock speed vs yours will make your temps higher, this means you need to run at 1800rpm+ to compensate for the terrible aluminum and high dense rad.
Also vary on what other parts are in the case and which fans are being used.
    
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You have a much hotter chip, and it is also overclocked while your friend's is not. It is as simple as that. There is no mysterious voodoo to it, and it has little to do with your case (although if you put everything back into the HAF you might notice some slight temp drops compared to the Evolv). Overclocked Devil's Canyon is simply as lot hotter than stock Skylake.
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Originally Posted by Toan View Post

The hyper 212 is a great aircooling unit, in my experience its hard to beat. There are some air coolers that perform just as well as AIO units. Also did you remove the plastic film from the bottom of the block?

I do feel that the EVOLV is an intake restrictive case, that could be your problem. Try taking off the front panel for a little and see if anything changes.

The Hyper 212 isn't magic. Plenty of coolers beat it. Beating it for the same or less cost is the "difficult" part, although that isn't really true any more, as they have steadily jacked the price on the 212 due to its popularity while other companies have put out equal/superior products at competitive prices over the last few years. The H115i should walk all over a 212.

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Phanteks Evolv front intake is slightly restrictive and require 2x140mm fans at around 1000-1200rpm to compensate. Granted Evolv has better airflow than HAF932 (front fan do not count)
The fan speed can make a difference on H115i. With the stock fans not being good due to the frame design and poor static pressure.
Your friend clock speed vs yours will make your temps higher, this means you need to run at 1800rpm+ to compensate for the terrible aluminum and high dense rad.
Also vary on what other parts are in the case and which fans are being used.

In what bizarro world does the Evolv ATX Tempered Glass have better airflow than the HAF 932? If you're talking stock setups, they're close, with the HAF still winning in overall airflow. If you start swapping out / adding fans, the HAF pulls ahead by an even greater margin. Where the HAF suffers is in directionality of flow (by default) and difficulty fully filtering all the intakes (due to the very open nature of the case). It also has a rather dated design, both aesthetically and functionally, but that is beyond the point.
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You have a much hotter chip, and it is also overclocked while your friend's is not. It is as simple as that. There is no mysterious voodoo to it, and it has little to do with your case (although if you put everything back into the HAF you might notice some slight temp drops compared to the Evolv). Overclocked Devil's Canyon is simply as lot hotter than stock Skylake.
The Hyper 212 isn't magic. Plenty of coolers beat it. Beating it for the same or less cost is the "difficult" part, although that isn't really true any more, as they have steadily jacked the price on the 212 due to its popularity while other companies have put out equal/superior products at competitive prices over the last few years. The H115i should walk all over a 212.
In what bizarro world does the Evolv ATX Tempered Glass have better airflow than the HAF 932? If you're talking stock setups, they're close, with the HAF still winning in overall airflow. If you start swapping out / adding fans, the HAF pulls ahead by an even greater margin. Where the HAF suffers is in directionality of flow (by default) and difficulty fully filtering all the intakes (due to the very open nature of the case). It also has a rather dated design, both aesthetically and functionally, but that is beyond the point.

Well since the front of the phantek is a pretty restricted case, would it be best to try and replace the front fans that it comes with, with something else maybe better? The fans it comes with are SP fans, would the case be better off with AF type fans or should I stick to SP? And would replacing the fans even do anything lol

Also I replaced the fans on the h115i with thermaltake riing 140mm fans. No idea if they are better or worse than the stock h115i fans.
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Also don't forget that Corsair rads are very high FPI. Depending on what fans you have and at 1400rpm might be pretty low static pressure. Combined with no case airflow youll get pretty average temps.

Also don't forget even an oc of 100mv will add quite some heat. I went from 46-47C to 56-57C going from 1.2 to 1.3v so it def adds up. Like someone said try it case open and see what you end up with, youll lose all the case pressure but if the temps are FAR better then airflow issue.

Could also be the water block not seating right as Corsair seem to have an issue with that, not sure if its even been fixed.

P.S. Those fans are cent at best, very good static pressure but very very poor CFM.
    
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My buddy has a 780T corsair case and a 6700k @ 4GHz and h115i and gets like 25C idle temps and 45load while gaming with me.
I am overclocked to 4.56GHz @ 1.275v as opposed to his 4GHz.

Can't understand why, we both live in the same area and don't run the A/C but his build runs much cooler.
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Also remembered my fans are at 1400rpm and his are at 1800-1900rpm. Don't think that is a big enough difference to justfiy that large of a temp change
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Also I replaced the fans on the h115i with thermaltake riing 140mm fans. No idea if they are better or worse than the stock h115i fans.

Ok......is this thread real are completely an exercise in messing with people? Completely different clocks, different fan speeds and downgraded fans....and the question is "why are the temps different"? And it's in an Evolv ATX...where I am sure that the top has not been isolated, so the (terrible aluminum high dens - thanks, @Sp33d Junki3 for the clear description) rad is doing nothing but recirculating air.

This whole thing is a trainwreck, and I have a very hard time believing the integrity of it.
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In what bizarro world does the Evolv ATX Tempered Glass have better airflow than the HAF 932?

Probably in the same bizzaro world where CLCs with awful inefficient rads, pumps that don't move enough liquid and rely on the loudest fans possible to operate are considered viable solutions.
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