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6700k or 6850k for 3year future proof gaming (upgrade from 4770k)

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Hello,

I currently own a 4770k@4GHz, on a Maximus VI, with a 980Ti. It's hosted in a Corsair Carbide 540 Air, which I plan to reuse

I'd like to upgrade the platform (CPU + mobo + Ram), and will likely take a 1080 as well

Which CPU would be the best ?

Usage :
- 50% gaming (Overwatch and other blizzard, CS:Go/BF) on 1440p (4k could become of interest). I play max quality whenever I can
- 25% coding
- 25% other stuff (which includes Adobe creative cloud stuff, photo processing, etc...)

About OC :
- I look for mild, rock stable OC, so I was thinking 4.2 max on the 6850k, 4.4 on the 6700k)
- I'm open to top end air cooling (Noctua NH-D15) or top end AIO watercooling if it's better...I'm not interested in a custom loop due to the maintenance, abd because I never did one and it scares me a little
- I will look for a mobo with decent PWM control, likely an Asus again
- I value silence over performance (I don't need dead silent, but my current config, very badly optimized, makes a freaking wind tunnel noise : ) )

Budget - Location
Budget is not an issue, and regarding part availability, I live in Switzerland, but can source parts from FR / DE if needed (other places are fine if they ship to CH)
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post #2 of 52
http://www.overclock.net/t/1594249/silicon-lottery-6700k-4-9ghz/30
Would you be willing to get the chip from him? It's already delidded, so you shouldn't have problems running at lower ran speeds. Higher core clocks and faster ram should keep it competitive vs the extra cores. The X99 build has more cores but no upgrade paths. The X99 produces more heat, so you might need an additional fan or run it at higher rpm.
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I buy my gear new to avoid any problem...and no offense, but I would specifically not buy a CPu that has been heavily tinkered with (delidding, high OC, etc...)
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post #4 of 52
Unless you're into features not directly linked to CPU performance, the difference between 4770K and 6700K is too small for the trouble IMO.
post #5 of 52
Keep your 4770k. Delid it for better temps so you can oc it to 4.5ghz. Call it a day. Get some good oc on the memory too and you won't have any problems. Look at the 2500k...can do pretty darn well still...
post #6 of 52
There is no reason to go from Haswell 4C to Skylake 4C.

If you want to upgrade the only sensible option is to get more cores 6C+ on X99 and get the BW-E like 6850K or higher or Xeon.
You still won't notice a difference in general usage and gaming compared to 4770K.
post #7 of 52
My 4790k at 4.7 with 2400mhz cl10 ram put to shame any 4 core 8 thread intel cpu currently... They do perform better but it probably like 5-10%



If you play cpu bound game like arma 3 or Beam NG


an upgrade with super fast ddr4 would probably be nice... But still like 10-15% maybe upgrade in minimum-average fps.. For 98% of game the upgrade is worthless.



Since i play a cpu bound game the only upgrade i want is a 8 core with 16 thread. With at least 25% more ipc smile.gif


((( arma 3 is singlethreaded ))) Beam ng use core for each car on the game... So to have 8 vehicle with 60fps i would need more core and ipc
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post #8 of 52
Unless you need more CPU power, there is no need to upgrade. Overclock you 4770k higher if you want more performance. Haswell is good for at least an extra 3-4 years if not more if you just game.
If you find yourself struggling with 100% used threads, it is time for you to either overclock it higher or get a higher core count.
The 980ti is more than enough, I don't see how the 1080 will change anything to your ''experience''. I would wait for the 1080ti, the 1080 is only going to be a side grade. Overclock the 980ti and you can pretty much get what the 1080 has to offer.
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post #9 of 52
Keep it.
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post #10 of 52
Had this dilemma myself. When X99 came out, when Z170 came out.
Running a 4770k at 4.2 w/16gb of 2333mhz memory.
The extra performance is just not here to justify cost.
The only reason I could see upgrading would be to X99 if you use software that would require the extra cores and need the extra PICE lanes.
I would wait to see whats next from Nvidia(Titan, Ti Pascal) and AMD before upgrading the 980Ti as well.
1080 is not really a suitable replacement IMHO.
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