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I was in your shoes earlier and couldn't decide between 6700k or 5820k. That was before 6800k/6850k came out. People recommend me to get 5820k cuz of 6 cores and I went with that. I loved my 5820k but whew it does make alot of heat and need very good AIO or custom either. I came from 2500k which is the king and very easy to OC. 5820k/6800k/6850k have more bios to play around and need alot of walkthrough to do to get the OC perfect. If you like to play around in bios then i recommend 6850k cuz of 6 cores and bios are fun to play around or you just need gaming and simple then 6700k.
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It's not accurate because your OS's CPU scheduler moves the heavy thread around. (In some cases, the app itself will keep generating new threads but run them in a sequential manner as well.)

Try this: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/windows-and-office/change-the-processor-affinity-setting-in-windows-7-to-gain-a-performance-edge/


Im on windows 10.. All those bug are fixed since windows 8.

I ran msi core usage for like a years on ton of game and they all showed me the bottleneck. If you see gpu usage drop and 1 core increase it clearly show a cpu issue
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What bug? This is perfectly normal behavior and exactly what the scheduler is designed to do. All general purpose operation systems do this.
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When you HAVE to overclock is when you should consider a new CPU.
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The 6700K beats the 5820K in dual gpu benches while using slower ram.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-what-is-the-fastest-gaming-cpu

You might get another 3-5% in games depending on the board

asus seems better on some benches
http://www.legitreviews.com/asrock-z170-oc-formula-motherboard-review_171946/11
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASRock/Z170M_OC_FORMULA/10.html
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASRock/Z170M_OC_FORMULA/11.html
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The 6700K beats the 5820K in dual gpu benches while using slower ram.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-what-is-the-fastest-gaming-cpu

You might get another 3-5% in games depending on the board

asus seems better on some benches
http://www.legitreviews.com/asrock-z170-oc-formula-motherboard-review_171946/11
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASRock/Z170M_OC_FORMULA/10.html
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASRock/Z170M_OC_FORMULA/11.html

It's all theoretical hype.

All -e are all low end xeon workstation processors. They are NOT single core optimized and there is not a single game on the market that can utilize all the cores from -e or xeon systems. They are meant for production (encoding, rendering) systems which require multiple cores to complete a project. The only difference between -e and xeon is reliability. However, if you overclock and cool a -e well enough it will dominate any i7 on the market.

You are comparing apples to oranges.
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The 6700K beats the 5820K in dual gpu benches while using slower ram.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-what-is-the-fastest-gaming-cpu

You might get another 3-5% in games depending on the board

asus seems better on some benches
http://www.legitreviews.com/asrock-z170-oc-formula-motherboard-review_171946/11
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASRock/Z170M_OC_FORMULA/10.html
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASRock/Z170M_OC_FORMULA/11.html

It's all theoretical hype.

All -e are all low end xeon workstation processors. They are NOT single core optimized and there is not a single game on the market that can utilize all the cores from -e or xeon systems. They are meant for production (encoding, rendering) systems which require multiple cores to complete a project. The only difference between -e and xeon is reliability. However, if you overclock and cool a -e well enough it will dominate any i7 on the market.

You are comparing apples to oranges.
Would love to see your sources on this. A -e at above average overclock is out performed by the 6700k in gaming. Anything else that can actually use the cores of course it will win but in gaming Skylake wins. Plus the fact that ddr4 has taken off and given the scaling with Skylake the i7 is a clear cut winner for fps.


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Would love to see your sources on this. A -e at above average overclock is out performed by the 6700k in gaming. Anything else that can actually use the cores of course it will win but in gaming Skylake wins. Plus the fact that ddr4 has taken off and given the scaling with Skylake the i7 is a clear cut winner for fps.


Always destroying exergy

Clearly you don't know the difference between a single core optimized processor and multicore processor and their definitive roles. You and countless ignorant millions continue to relate the two as "gaming" processors... serious pipedreams.
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Would love to see your sources on this. A -e at above average overclock is out performed by the 6700k in gaming. Anything else that can actually use the cores of course it will win but in gaming Skylake wins. Plus the fact that ddr4 has taken off and given the scaling with Skylake the i7 is a clear cut winner for fps.


Always destroying exergy

Clearly you don't know the difference between a single core optimized processor and multicore processor and their definitive roles. You and countless ignorant millions continue to relate the two as "gaming" processors... serious pipedreams.
Actually most all of us understand something that simple. Thing is in the HEDT world people still care about gaming. Obviously you are either ignorant or simply can't read. The title of the post listed the use of the system as gaming. Now with that in mind please re read my post before you open your mouth...k thanks wink.gif


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post #50 of 52
The past three years I bounced around a few system. I'm currently right back to my first rig I built in 2013.

I killed my 3770k after 9 months of it being delidded the 2 A memory channels stopped working and I could only get 4x lanes on my GPU. wheee.gif

So I upgraded to a 4930k build with a rampage iv black edition. I ended up selling the parts off and built a 6700K rig last November. I ended up selling that entire rig that was in my sig rig for a decent amount.

A buddy of mine gave me his old 3770K so I popped it into my Maximus V Formula and it overclocks exactly how my old one did.

I noticed absolutely no different between them beside boot up times which the Maximus V Formula wins. It boots in 17 seconds while the Gigabyte Gaming 7 and Rampage IV Black Edition both booted around 30 seconds.

I love new hardware and that is why I upgraded so much! I have to admit though I don't see a reason to upgrade until something ground breaking comes out or my Maximus V board dies.

The 4770k is fine unless you plan on utilizing the extra cores. I thought I would with my 4930k but even with the training I'm currently doing with setting up servers I never had more than 4 virtual machines on my system.
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