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...You might be happy to know that they changed course again and will fully support future Intel hardware on Win7 until the general commercial support deadline in 2020. Upgrade away. tongue.gif

Actually, no, I'm not happy because the misbegotten jerks waited until after I had already bought a Haswell-e board to rescind that limitation idiotic limitation. I was waiting for Skylake-e to come out but grabbed a Haswell-e board while I could when the lowlifes (btw, I'm using heavily censored terms to describe how I feel about Sadist Nutella and his cronies to avoid unnecessarily raising the ire of the censors mods) first retroactively announced the reduction of support for Win 7 Skylake users (I didn't see any benefits for me for overpriced Broadwell-e CPUs so I got a Haswell-e one; the MOBOs stayed the same).
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I hassled Silverstone recently via FB and this forum and they indicated they are starting to look into it, so that's positive! smile.gif
post #33 of 44
Whether we go with a solution from Silverstone or our own will remain to be seen. USB 3.1 is still very bleeding edge when it comes to computer tech. Sure, phones have been using it to charge and transfer for a little while, but it's implementation in the PC industry has been very slow, even slower than USB 3.0 was, surprisingly.
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The real question is when will CaseLabs stop adding front panel audio to their cases?
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The real question is when will CaseLabs stop adding front panel audio to their cases?

When a majority of people no longer want or care about it, I would assume.
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i wish they would come up with  a new USB3 motherboard header, its so tiny with such a thick cable plugged in to it.

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Both are deceptive junk. The e-Bay one runs off only 1 PCI-e lane. All four possible ports share the same 5Gbps, which is only USB 3.1 Gen 1 (formerly known as USB 3.0).

The second one was an enigma. I had to go to Kingwin's website and download the manual to get any details.. The four USB ports—three of what they call USB 3.0 and one USB 3.1 Type C—are fed from a single USB 3.0 header; all four share 5Gbps bandwidth. The car reader ports share a single USB 2.0 header. Their specs say the eSATA port is only SATA II (3.0Gbps). Kingwin normally puts out good products but dropped the ball on these two.
     
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OK, I see your reasoned response and raise you these! ;-)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MQ5R7I1/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A32S73DAZ970X4...

Still garbage. You have 5 USB 3.1 Gen 1 (formally known as USB 3.0) ports on the back (four Type A and one Type C) and a USB 3.1 Gen 1 header that can support up to two USB 3.1 Gen 1 ports. That's up to seven USB ports sharing the same 5Gbps bandwidth. Look at the PCI-e connector on the card. It is only 1 PCI-e lane. You need at least two lanes to support one USB 3.1 Gen 2 port.

That's a slight improvement in that Silverstone is more honest in its description but it's still garbage. While the card reader section is connected to its own USB 3.1 Gen 1 header, all those slots still share only 5Gbps in bandwidth. Since they are connected to a second header, the three USB 3.1 Gen 1 ports also share 5Gbps.

Look at this card. It uses four PCI-e lanes (PCI-e x4) so it can support two USB 3.1 Gen 2 ports at full speed (10Gbps for each port) via the header on the back. The only down side to this card (Amazon has it, btw) is I have yet to see any reviews on this card based on actual use so I don't know how well it works.

Edit: I finally got a closer look at one of these cards. Even though it has pins for PCI-e x4, it is actually using only x2 so both ports are only capable of only 10Gbps between. This is another example of how manufacturer' are abusing the idiotic change in USB 3.x standards. If Silverstone was being completely honest, they would have specified the card as being USB 3.1 Gen 1 instead of just USB 3.1 and made it clear that the 10Gbps it was rated for was shared between the two ports. I can't tell if one port is capable of supporting 10Gbps or not and Silverstone never replied to me about another query I made about the card so Silverstone is now on my boycott list.
Edited by Lady Fitzgerald - 2/18/17 at 12:48pm
     
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