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NO, some of your comments (one of which)...
...along with the Nvidia statement of Boost clock: Actual 1733MHz on their site, along with my hot blood, triggered an overreaction redface.gif. It was a misunderstanding on my part, for which, I hereto officially Apologize! cheers.gif

I will now, put my paper bag of shame and go quietly in the corner hypocritesmiley.png

Actually nVidia is being misleading because on their actual website states the base clock of the GTX 1080 is

GTX_1080.jpg

They used to have that as normal specs for their GPU but ATM since the 1080 just launched they have promo crap up instead having their standard spec sheets.
Edited by Rei86 - 6/9/16 at 6:23am
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post #22 of 42
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Originally Posted by T1A1 View Post

NO, some of your comments (one of which)...
...along with the Nvidia statement of Boost clock: Actual 1733MHz on their site, along with my hot blood, triggered an overreaction redface.gif. It was a misunderstanding on my part, for which, I hereto officially Apologize! cheers.gif

I will now, put my paper bag of shame and go quietly in the corner hypocritesmiley.png

No worries, it can be hard keeping track of who said what thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by Waitng4realGPU View Post

So technically speaking they are not throttling, but let's face it the results are skewed to trick the mainstream (and even enthusiast) consumers.

It's garbage. As technology progresses so does the trickery and marketing to take people's money.
That could be their new slogan, 'Technology that can make time stand still whilst the competition wilts like a dead flower' lol

If you don't like the way GPU Boost works you're welcome to underclock your card so it maintains 1,607 MHz during boost and let the rest of us enjoy speeds of up to 1,733 MHz.
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Actually nVidia is being misleading because on their actual website states the base clock of the GTX 1080 is

GTX_1080.jpg

They used to have that as normal specs for their GPU but ATM since the 1080 just launched they have promo crap up instead having their standard spec sheets.

How is that misleading? They tell you the base frequency and your GPU Boost frequency (which is not guaranteed at all times as said by them).
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Why do people on any computer harddware forums think you can every buy hardware that's future proof? Its like asking time to standstill wink.gif
But that is an issue with AMD. Their hardware is great but their software development team has not always been up to snuff. This is one of the major negative item that weights on the back of a buyer when they go out to purchase a nVidia GPU vs a AMD GPU.
looks like they trying in software side this year . that is one major thing they always seem to lose out on is working with game devs and other software they have some great software but you never know it as they never try to show it of like Nvidia does Amd has really never been great at marking wth.gif
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You make AMD cards sound like a worse deal. Pay full price now, for full performance in 3-4 years, when the card will be obsolete anyway.

I think it takes longer than that for a card to be obsolete. My 290x is doing great at 1440p 70hz today.
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If you don't like the way GPU Boost works you're welcome to underclock your card so it maintains 1,607 MHz during boost and let the rest of us enjoy speeds of up to 1,733 MHz.

This doesn't help mainstream consumers that are being fooled into believing review results.
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This doesn't help mainstream consumers that are being fooled into believing review results.

Please show me this long list of games that causes the card to surpass its power/thermal envelope within ten minutes for the following 4-6 hours solid as I only know of one or two.
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No worries, it can be hard keeping track of who said what thumb.gif
If you don't like the way GPU Boost works you're welcome to underclock your card so it maintains 1,607 MHz during boost and let the rest of us enjoy speeds of up to 1,733 MHz.
How is that misleading? They tell you the base frequency and your GPU Boost frequency (which is not guaranteed at all times as said by them).

Because when you used to click on the spec link to a GPU it would go to their standard spec sheet like this



But right now when you click that link for the GTX 1080 it takes you to promo crap



You have to dig a little deeper, and consumer will look at the boost clock speed and not even think of it as its base clock.
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post #28 of 42
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Please show me this long list of games that causes the card to surpass its power/thermal envelope within ten minutes for the following 4-6 hours solid as I only know of one or two.

http://www.computerbase.de/2016-05/geforce-gtx-1080-test/6/#abschnitt_bis_zu_1785_mhz_takt_unter_dauerlast

"The maximum of 1886MHz is more of a theoretical value [...]" right below the table

The 1080 that is though...

Edit adds 1070 results (pretty much identical) throtteling everywhere.

http://www.computerbase.de/2016-06/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-test/3/#abschnitt_so_taktet_die_geforce_gtx_1070_founders_edition
Edited by poii - 6/9/16 at 7:24am
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http://www.computerbase.de/2016-05/geforce-gtx-1080-test/6/#abschnitt_bis_zu_1785_mhz_takt_unter_dauerlast

"The maximum of 1886MHz is more of a theoretical value [...]" right below the table

The 1080 that is though...

Edit adds 1070 results (pretty much identical) throtteling everywhere.

http://www.computerbase.de/2016-06/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-test/3/#abschnitt_so_taktet_die_geforce_gtx_1070_founders_edition

And there you have it, a grand total of four games. Anno 2205, Star Wars: Battlefront, The Talos Principle and The Witcher 3. All the others have GPU Boost working exactly as it should which is what I've been saying for a few pages now.

On the GTX 1070 it looks even better, GPU Boost is active and working on all titles.

Once again, the card never drops below its base clock speed so it isn't throttling.
post #30 of 42
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And there you have it, a grand total of four games. Anno 2205, Star Wars: Battlefront, The Talos Principle and The Witcher 3. All the others have GPU Boost working exactly as it should which is what I've been saying for a few pages now.

On the GTX 1070 it looks even better, GPU Boost is active and working on all titles.


Once again, the card never drops below its base clock speed so it isn't throttling.

It does not drop below the base clock but it's advertised with it's boost clock so it is below at what it is advertised.

When after 20 minutes of play in most of the games on the list the card goes to something around 1680 on average. That might be a little over the base but is far from the advertised boost clock.

And it doesn't matter if for the first 10-15 minutes it can run at +100 more mhz when it drops down after .... For a gamer those 15 minutes are often wasted in preparation before the game itself biggrin.gif

I don't like cheap tactics and the Boost clock is one. It is not a god damn car that drives fast at the start and overall adds to the average speed of the travel time.
Edited by slavovid - 6/9/16 at 8:20am
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