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Originally Posted by lolerk52 View Post

https://www.chiphell.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1601437&extra=page%3D1&page=5

Can anyone translate that?
Google translate provides gibberish.

I think the first sentence is more like " By applying a masking layer you could tell if those pictures were photoshopped or not"
i.e. claiming he didn't photoshop any of them. Not sure what a masking layer means as I don't know anything about Photoshop.

Second sentence " As to why the card has a MSI lightning cooler on it, it is to avoid the NDA trap"
post #132 of 339
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Originally Posted by palanoid View Post

I think the first sentence is more like " By applying a masking layer you could tell if those pictures were photoshopped or not"
i.e. claiming he didn't photoshop any of them. Not sure what a masking layer means as I don't know anything about Photoshop.

Second sentence " As to why the card has a MSI lightning cooler on it, it is to avoid the NDA trap"
Thank you.
Quote:
According to the Dutch guy working at MSI, what is shown does not come from MSI, aka there is no such thing as an MSI RX 480 Lightning (yet).

Credit to Dahakon
post #133 of 339
Real btw.

Retailers are starting to get them in the uk also redface.gif
post #134 of 339
遮罩一上就知道有沒有P圖了
至於散熱器為什麼是閃電,這是為了NDA TRAP

驅動安裝過程全都拍攝下來了
沒改設備ID
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Originally Posted by lolerk52 View Post

https://www.chiphell.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1601437&extra=page%3D1&page=5

Can anyone translate that?
Google translate provides gibberish.


Egg fried rice, pancake roll , and dog trap - easy when you know how biggrin.gif
post #135 of 339
NDA trap means different clocks for different samples. This way AMD can spot the leakers. biggrin.gif

Here's 1227MHz clock. http://imgur.com/2MGPJQ8
Edited by kapulek - 6/12/16 at 1:08am
post #136 of 339
So if i understand everything correctly the Lightning cooler uses a 6 or 8 pin just for it's fans and stuff thus this guy uses a lightning cooler from some other card to edit his stock RX480 in order to avoid the NDA and be able to post benches and such without or with lower risk involved.

This seems like a lot of work and like some wierd NDA rules that can be avoided that easy. If it is true however it more likely seems that the 1080 Mhz is intended for the 4GB version and they are using chips for the 4GB that do not clock too well and keeping better chips for 8GB versions ? either that or the card is at 1266 Mhz when the software shows 1080 as it is somehow reading a wrong multiplier or something and trying to clock it to 1266 in fact can be clocking it + 186mhz effectively clocking the 1266 to something like 1500 (considering a wrong multiplier or something in those lines) thus giving the 70 degrees result even with the lightning cooling

As it would be expected to get low temperatures with this 3 fan blower thing, right ?
Alternatively the Lightning cooler doesn't rly fit properly the way it is suposed to and thus providing us with bad temperature results.

Either way we should await for those benchmarks the guys saying they haven't signed NDA or at least till E3 in order to get better judgement on this card.
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post #137 of 339
And one more thing, that guys is comparing the MSI
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Originally Posted by lolerk52 View Post

https://www.chiphell.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1601437&extra=page%3D1&page=5

Can anyone translate that?
Google translate provides gibberish.

After going through the whole article and replies, now it seems the real deal to me. He has a RX 480 from MSI, a 4GB version, with 8+6-pin power connector. Then he remove the cooler of the 480 and put the cooler shroud from a 290X Lightning to bypass the NDA. Yeah he's basically trying to say "Hey this is not a 480 that i'm running benchies here, it's a 290X Lightning, i didn't broke any NDA." And he said he recorded by video the whole process of installing the drivers of the 480 to prove the validity of the card. And for those who still accuses him of simply showing a 290X Lightning, he challenge them to take show a 290X achieving more than 2900 in Firemark Ultra (His 480 scores 3100+).
post #138 of 339
That's an interesing NDA trap. Quite clever tbh now they know who exactly is the guy with the 1080 Mhz clock is unless if his stock clock is something like 1230 and he intentionaly underclocked it way under to not ruin some other revewers reputation and yet show us the card then clocked it to 1266 as it being the intended clock for the chip and ran the tests

and we might be getting the 70 degrees temperatures due to the Lightning cooling not fitting everything properly ?
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post #139 of 339
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And one more thing, that guys is comparing the MSI
After going through the whole article and replies, now it seems the real deal to me. He has a RX 480 from MSI, a 4GB version, with 8+6-pin power connector. Then he remove the cooler of the 480 and put the cooler shroud from a 290X Lightning to bypass the NDA. Yeah he's basically trying to say "Hey this is not a 480 that i'm running benchies here, it's a 290X Lightning, i didn't broke any NDA." And he said he recorded by video the whole process of installing the drivers of the 480 to prove the validity of the card. And for those who still accuses him of simply showing a 290X Lightning, he challenge them to take show a 290X achieving more than 2900 in Firemark Ultra (His 480 scores 3100+).

I was under the asumption that the Lightning cooler itself has a 6 or 8 pin and that is why we see the RX 480 that comes standard with 1x6 pin to have now more power connections

someone that has dissasembled his 290x lightning pls tells us if that is correct
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post #140 of 339
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I shouldn't skip Chinese in my class. biggrin.gif
Fake or not, hats off for this guy.
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