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post #1 of 10
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Hello guys, I hope you can help me. I need to buy two new mice, one for me, one for someone else.

Part One

Starting with my mouse, I am replacing a Razer Deathadder Black Edition, mainly because it is damaged, but I am also not entirely happy with it. I use a fingertip grip with a bit smaller hands (17.5cm long, 8.5cm wide). Due to its size I tend to touch the Deathadder a bit with other parts of my hand though.

I had several mice in the past, some large and heavy where I also used a Palm Grip already (which doesn't feel as great on the Deathadder though); for a while I was looking for more big mice, but in hindsight I think I liked the Razer Salmosa which was very small and light more. I would like to go back to something smaller and lighter than I have now.

I currently play a MOBA game mostly (Heroes of the Storm), but I played other genres in the past and will so in the future probably again (RTS, FPS, probably not MMORPG though so no massive amount of buttons desired). I do want to have at least one side button because I use it for Push to Talk.

My budget is around 60 Euro.

I already looked around a bit and I found the following recommendations with the following attributes as far as I know about them:

Logitech G303: Relatively cheap, apparently good buttons, light and small; shape seems controversial and I heard of build quality concerns (Sensor rattle, mouse wheel).
Zowie FK2: A bit above budget, great quality, but I heard of hard to press buttons and it lacks software for reassigning side button functionality which is a mild upset for me, though if I had to I could live with that.
Roccat Kone Pure Military Edition: Price inbetween, quality apparently decent, shape / size seems a bit large to me but several people claimed it is suited for smaller hands and fingertip grip. I have a dislike for Roccat though based on previous experiences with this brand, so I would prefer to avoid it.

My current tendency goes towards the G303. If I am unhappy with it I could just send it back I guess, but I would prefer if I could avoid such hassle, which is why I am asking for help.

If you could help me make a final decision that would be great. I would also listen to recommendations for mice I may not have listed yet.

Part Two

This may be out of the ordinary requests for you as the purpose of this mouse is not gaming; it will be only used for office and multimedia purposes as well as hobby photo editing. It replaces an ancient Logitech MX 510. It is meant to be cheap, of reasonable quality and suited for palm grip. Not a wireless mouse. I cannot tell you more than that, but I think there is not much more to tell anyway. There is a ridiculous amount of cheap mice but I have no idea which one I should choose, and I haven't found any good recommendation guides for this kind of mice as there are for gaming mice. I assume a budget of 30 Euro but less wouldn't be bad either.
post #2 of 10
I've tried the G303 and IMO it's one of the ultimate shapes for claw but neither of the other two grips. I have the FK2 and it's a fantastic fingertip shape. If you like the Deathadder profile and want it in a smaller, more fingertip friendly package, definitely look at the EC2A.
post #3 of 10
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I think I would rather want to go away from the Deathadder shape, but I don't know how it would feel in smaller. I also heard the side buttons on the EC2-A are not very good.

What made the G303 bad for fingertip grip for you? Whenever I heard about the G303 people have been telling it would be good for both claw and fingertip grip, just not for palm grip.
post #4 of 10
In no paticular order

Zowie EC2 - deathadder like but smaller, more finger grip friendly
Logitech g402 - works with all grip styles
Logitech g303 - claw and finger tip friendly. My mouse of choice
Rival 100 - good for claw and fingertip. Also good bang fro your buck


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post #5 of 10
I have a fk2 as my daily driver and a g303 currently in the drawer smile.gif i think the buttons on the fk2 is too stiff if you are a high apm moba player. They are fine for fps though. I think the rival 100 would be very good choice for you. The g303 aswell if you like the shape.
post #6 of 10
Thread Starter 
Thanks guys! I think I will give the G303 a try and if I don't get along with it I will send it back and try the Rival 100 or maybe the FK2 next.

I looked around a bit for the second mouse as well and I think I might try suggesting the Tt eSPORTS Talon Blu which costs only 17 Euro and seems to have decent ratings for the price.
post #7 of 10
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Originally Posted by gokkel View Post

Thanks guys! I think I will give the G303 a try and if I don't get along with it I will send it back and try the Rival 100 or maybe the FK2 next.

I looked around a bit for the second mouse as well and I think I might try suggesting the Tt eSPORTS Talon Blu which costs only 17 Euro and seems to have decent ratings for the price.

I can't put in words how annoying playing league of legends with a FK2 was. These buttons are not meant for moba.

EC2 is a different story button wise, they are quite soft but I can't imagine it being a fingertip mouse.

G303 sounds like a good choice, unless you get hand cramps I'm pretty sure you'll like it, just make sure to give it a week atleast to get used to the shape.
post #8 of 10
Thread Starter 
My mouse arrived today! First impression is very good, I think I can get along with the shape, although I might develop more something of a Fingertip / Claw grip hybrid or so, hard to describe. But I can return the mouse in up to 30 days, so I still have a lot of time to see how it will be.

Most importantly though it seems I have been spared from the infamous G303 rattle issue, at least I cannot hear any rattle.
Edited by gokkel - 6/15/16 at 4:39am
post #9 of 10
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Originally Posted by gokkel View Post

Most importantly though it seems I have been spared from the infamous G303 rattle issue, at least I cannot hear any rattle.

if you want to be sure, just open up Paint and use the pencil tool set to 1px size.
set the cpi of your mouse to something high (the higher the better).
now just hold down M1 and do a fast swip - make sure you stop completely at the end of it.
if you see a jittery bit at the end, the sensor's probably loose. though if the cursor actually stopped completely when you stopped the swipe, you should be good.
post #10 of 10
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Originally Posted by Bucake View Post

if you want to be sure, just open up Paint and use the pencil tool set to 1px size.
set the cpi of your mouse to something high (the higher the better).
now just hold down M1 and do a fast swip - make sure you stop completely at the end of it.
if you see a jittery bit at the end, the sensor's probably loose. though if the cursor actually stopped completely when you stopped the swipe, you should be good.


Thanks for the tip. Not sure if I did it correctly but from my impression it looks fine.
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