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Tbh people i believe that there might be even too high of RX470/480 cards in retailers.

Apart from people like us that are interested and aware of the new technology that AMD and Nvidia are using now the average Joe has no idea and will not rush to replace his current GPU.

Only when the cards are on the market and people start using them and sharing with their friends that they bought a card that is say 200$ and performs great only then those with lower end GPU's will bother to set aside 200+$ and go replace their GPU

All the rest that use 290+ and even 960+ GPUs will not bother to start saving for this upgrade as they are probably just fine as it is and when they are NOT fine they will decide on their own pace and not on 29-th of June

All that said if there is too big supply on the market with RX4xx cards and not enough demand the price could drop closer to that MSRP.

This is good for consumers and AMD, because then it won't be the stores gouging us and inflating what could be good pricing.

I hope they are overstocked thumb.gif
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I can't comment on US prices, it would be great if we had them here smile.gif

1080 goes for around 850-900EUR here, i think the 1070 is somewhere around 650-700EUR.

980ti goes around 650-700EUR, while the 970 goes for just under 290EUR. At launch, I expect the 4GB RX480 to be somewhere around the same price as the 970. I really have no other options other than those two, the 390X is around 400EUR and it's too much for me.

Just and the end I wanna say I hope RX480 performs as expected at launch. Hope it beats the 980 for the lower price. I'd get it no problems than. But there wasn't any need to keep like half of the GPU-crazy world in a situation like this when everyone wonders if 480 is a game changer. Why not just keep everything a secret and then kick everyone's ass at launch?

Again, I have to say, in Europe, the old hardware gets cheaper (bought new) while the new hardware gets way overpriced. I think in a few months we are going to see same prices for 980 and RX480. And taxes are real pain in the ass.

@FLCLimax,

Like I said, prices are different anywhere, prices AMD announced are probably US prices, here it's going to be a totally different story. Prices if 9xx and R9's are dropping quickly so soon we will see if the "european pricey RX480" is going be cheaper than a 980.

Can't keep up with all the posts about the things I said. Anyway, I'm way off topic for this thread and there is like 10 others. I respect everyones oppinion but everyone sees this differently. My last two cents, I don't like the way AMD releases stuff. Like leaks for Zen and performing as a 6950X. It's like keeping people on standby and just waiting for new stuff.

What's going to happen with RX490 or whatever it's going to be called? Offer 980ti performance and MSRP of 249$ for the 8GB version just when they release the 480, give out a few leads on it?

It'd be so much easier if both NVIDIA and AMD released cards at somewhere the same time, both goes for CPU's, and everyone knows when to buy and what to buy. This is theoreticly impossible but it would be the best deal for us. From where I come from, deep future is most likely overrated.

To be fair, Leaks are out of AMD's reach and can happen.

Despite the Technology world moving incredibly fast it takes more than a year to create a CPU that can be sold. Stockholders and other people of interest wouldn't accept to live in the dark for a year. This is probaly why AMD (And most other companies) release a few bits of information every once in a while to stay relevant.

Reflecting on this I think AMD has given not a whole lot of information (Apart from the fact that jim keller worked on it which is by far the best piece of information)

Also, "I dont like the way AMD releases stuff" I assume you already gave up on Nvidia and their "Real" launch with 0 in stock everywhere on earth and "Founders Edition" (In addition to raising AIB prices by 120$) wink.gif
Edited by Yttrium - 6/24/16 at 8:27am
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Also, "I dont like the way AMD releases stuff" I assume you already gave up on Nvidia and their "Real" launch with 0 in stock everywhere on earth and "Founders Edition" (In addition to raising AIB prices by 120$) wink.gif

If AMD can pull off massive quantities in stock and projections of 980ish performance then Nvidia's launch failures will make this a huge win for AMD. No fanboy here but that would be awesome for competition and I hope AMD can get back up neck and neck in sales and market share with Nvidia.
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AMD already has the 2nd place IMHO after Intel, 3rd probably being Nvidia. Of course that is looking at the whole GPU market not just PC enthusiast cards. AMD has consoles which is a huge market share I think and gives it an edge as more and more games are ported from PCx64 like consoles, you can see these well optimized games do well even on current AMD CPU+GPU compared to Intel+Nvidia. Yeah Ngreedia holds market share on PC enthusiast cards but that's about it and a small piece of a big pie.
post #175 of 185
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If it turns out bad, people that ordered it before reading reviews won't get them back wink.gif

I'm really starting to think this is just an overkill of specs and comparisons. Come on people, it was never double less money for same performance, never. And IF it beat the GTX1080 with xfire a month ago it seems like they got a working driver for it.

Why are they doing this, who knows. I've got enough money for the G1 GTX970 I was after and I think at the end I'm gonna spend it there.

Honestly, if you're that impatient, I would say you should buy the 970 right now. Then make sure to stay up to date on Polaris, aib customs, ect, that way next time you're feeling antsy, maybe you'll be able to hold yourself back from doing something silly
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AMD already has the 2nd place IMHO after Intel, 3rd probably being Nvidia. Of course that is looking at the whole GPU market not just PC enthusiast cards. AMD has consoles which is a huge market share I think and gives it an edge as more and more games are ported from PCx64 like consoles, you can see these well optimized games do well even on current AMD CPU+GPU compared to Intel+Nvidia. Yeah Ngreedia holds market share on PC enthusiast cards but that's about it and a small piece of a big pie.
Nvidia holds 75%+ on all discreet GPUs, including mainstream, not just enthusiast wink.gif
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AMD already has the 2nd place IMHO after Intel, 3rd probably being Nvidia. Of course that is looking at the whole GPU market not just PC enthusiast cards. AMD has consoles which is a huge market share I think and gives it an edge as more and more games are ported from PCx64 like consoles, you can see these well optimized games do well even on current AMD CPU+GPU compared to Intel+Nvidia. Yeah Ngreedia holds market share on PC enthusiast cards but that's about it and a small piece of a big pie.
Nvidia holds 75%+ on all discreet GPUs, including mainstream, not just enthusiast wink.gif

Consoles aren't counted towards GPU market as they usually are CPU and GPU on the same chip. (Also known as an APU by AMD's naming convention.) This is to reduce cost while keeping performance as high as it can.
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Yeah well it's still GPUs and Nvidia is 3rd place globally in all GPU sales when you count in all devices.
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Honestly, if you're that impatient, I would say you should buy the 970 right now. Then make sure to stay up to date on Polaris, aib customs, ect, that way next time you're feeling antsy, maybe you'll be able to hold yourself back from doing something silly

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Yeah well it's still GPUs and Nvidia is 3rd place globally in all GPU sales when you count in all devices.
if you say so rolleyes.gif
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