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it took me weeks on my PS3 to get 100 smithing (buying and selling to have money to buy ores to craft materials, using the merchant glitch to help get stuff for free and selling stuff for profit. etc ) to craft dragon armor (which was highly disappointing btw dedric armor was so much more visually better looking). Then some1 reset it and all the progress I had in there were gone. All my GOD DAMN @@@@ work gone within 8rs of me returning home. Anyways I bought the PC version but I never had any interest in it again. Although I love the free upgrade
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Pointless.

A Morrowind remaster? Now we could be on to something. Skyrim doesn't even look bad, not even vanilla. Absolutely zero need for a remaster.

Although since I already own the base game and all the DLC, I suppose I'll give it a go since I get it for free anyway.

Have you actually looked at Vanilla Skyrim recently? When I fired it up at first as vanilla to see what it about some years it was ... quite frankly very bad gfx wise. It was like a random game from 2005.
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Think about it as overclocking for the game engine. It's not necessary to spend hours tweaking and adjusting every voltage, ratio, and multiplier, but it's addictive. Same thing with all the mods. It's about seeing how far and how hard you can push the game engine.

Most people that have 200+ mods are using a bunch of little mods, like 30 different individual weapons, and 50 different individual outfits, some of which come with patches pushing upwards to 100+ mods just for some new outfits and weapons. In reality a majority of those little ones can be merged together, shrinking that 100+ to 10 or so.


Much truth in that, most count every single texture & mesh as a mod as well. Pretty much comes from using mod managers which install for them & keep track of those things, whereas I don't look at those as being within the aggregate total of "mods" at all. If it doesn't have a plugin or master...

Unofficial bug fixes, script extenders, ENB itself, et alia similarly don't tick my requirements either. That's just, like, my opinion man. tongue.gif



@ Silvergoat: I'd love to give a list, but that would take literally days to even sort out. As for why, it's mostly a hobby as DNMock said, pushing everything as far as possible w/o breaking what is a very fragile engine is an achievement unto itself. Additionally though, it comes down to making the game at least what it could've, & indeed should've been, when it was released.

To extrapolate on the last, take the npc's for instance. There is no excuse for the poor models used in Skyrim, & for a perfect example, look to the chin, nose, & cheekbones of all of the originals. Blocky, extremely low poly count meshes, equally bad normal maps, & more. I have no idea to this day why they hired skin texture artists that had apparently stabbed their eyes out with crayons whilst they where young. Even FONV had better npc models & textures, and don't even get me started on the clay-mation hair... lol biggrin.gif


I run about 7 small to large group npc's replacer's, along with quite a few individual ones. Including:

- Foxy Skyrim as a male replacer, the females are mostly culled except where there is no better option available.
- Sidearm's JH series (Bandits, Elves, Donyakiin, Companions, Dawnguard, Housecarls, NPC_85, Dragonborn, & Forsworn) < Technically speaking, I probably should count them all as individual mods.
- SOG's (some)
- Dames of Skyrim (some)
- Bijiin series (some)
- Skykids (boys)
- Dolls (to pick up the couple of remaining female children)
- Ohmes Raht Khajit replacer
- Humanized Beast Races (Argonians only)

All pared down with TES5Edit & CK to remove any & all conflicts. Edited to use custom bodies per nearly each & every individual adult npc, btw (not Everybody's Different or any other Skyproc trick either).

Skyrim, like many of Bethsoft's less recent titles was/is a horrific console port, with little effort geared to leveraging the assets available. That's even taking into account the so-called "HD" texture packs, that were unworthy of mid-tier gaming computers of it's day. That legacy, while lessened in FO4, still rears it's ugly head quite a bit there as well.
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but, it's free if you have legendary or the base game + DLCs and most people do.
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but, it's free if you have legendary or the base game + DLCs and most people do.

What if i have ps3 legendary will i get it free on ps4 or is it just on steam?
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Thanks for the responses. I guess that makes sense if you really want to get immersed in the game. With so many out there, it's hard to tell if it adds to the game or makes it worse. I guess it can't hurt to look for a few more, but there are so many to sort through it's hard to even want to start looking. I don't care much for the better characters, although if I saw gameplay with those mods, I'm sure it would be convincing. Gonna hunt a couple more effects mods like the fire/smoke and other little environmental things.
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Thanks for the responses. I guess that makes sense if you really want to get immersed in the game. With so many out there, it's hard to tell if it adds to the game or makes it worse. I guess it can't hurt to look for a few more, but there are so many to sort through it's hard to even want to start looking. I don't care much for the better characters, although if I saw gameplay with those mods, I'm sure it would be convincing. Gonna hunt a couple more effects mods like the fire/smoke and other little environmental things.

For just pure improvement of quality in the game without turning it into a mario cart racing against Macho Man the dragon and Thomas the Train a few good mods that can really improve the experience:

SKSE Script Extender (Not on Nexus, google it)
Unofficial Skyrim Patch
Flora Overhaul
SMIM (Static Mesh Improvement Mod)
AmidianBorn Book of Secrets
2k texture pack (I'd suggest looking through Hectrol's textures as well, pretty sweet. Lots of them out there, if you opt for an ENB, look for some with Parallax)
WET
Choice of Body Mods (the women are easy to find, but don't forget the men as well!)
Mature Skin
Apachii Sky Hair
Choice of NPC overhaul mods
Volumemetric Clouds
Ambiance and Reverb overhaul
XMPS skeleton (whatever the most up to date version is)
Ragdoll Physics
FNIS
Choice of Combat animations.
Choice of ENB

That should give you a salty base to really improve the quality of the game, probably moreso than this "remastered version" without having 200 mods installed. Most of the other stuff is either pretty advanced stuff I wouldn't recommend someone unfamiliar with modding using (like DynDoLOD), or are more minor things that don't have a major impact on the overall gameplay experience.

Make sure to follow all the directions from the mod authors on installation and if there are pre-requisite mods, make sure you install those first.

Afterwards if you have any crash to desktop type scenarios (especially if you opt to add a bunch of other random stuff for fun), download a program called LOOT, it will check your load order, arrange it properly for you, and even list the mods that are activated but don't have the proper pre-requisite mods.

All of this sans SKSE and ENB itself (not the presets) are on Nexusmods. Use the Nexusmods mod installer for it all too and save yourself a lot of headeaches trying to manually install it all.
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