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Mods on console, this is what that Bethesda.net they brought out with fallout 4 was all about. In order to bring mods out for the consoles they need a place to put them all both MS and Sony would agree on, it's not like they would've let them all use the nexus for mods.

Interesting but TBH I'm annoyed that, once again, a company is going console-centric for things. FO4 now features more DLC tailored for the consoles than ever before and what's worse is that it's "Included in the season pass" I'm starting to think no PC gamer should bother with season passes anymore. I would've been cheaper to cherry-pick my DLC and avoided the workshop stuff.

Yep. Hearthfire was another example of console DLC since Skyrim already had build your own house mods.

At this point, I do not bother with season passes. You don't know what you are going to get with them.
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Is it still going to be DX9? The original game felt so...flat compared to other AAA games, even during the time of release.

FO4 engine , it may be crap but at least it is DX11.
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These new effects do not make the game look better imo, and certainly do not make the game look better than the current version + enb.

I imagine I will be disabling most or all of these effects. No thanks.
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Could never bother to Mod Skyrim. Not I can finally play it again.
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The Remastered version looks like a decent visual upgrade for those that play the vanilla game. For players like me that currently run a heavily modded game with Enb it would be a step backwards. The only reason Bethesda is releasing it as a free upgrade for existing owners of the game on PC is to entice mod authors to either update their mods to work with the update or create new ones. For that to happen Bethesda first needs to address the issue of console kids stealing mods and claiming at as their own far better then the current policy.
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You played Skyrim? you used an ENB mod? because you are talking without knowing, ENB has a modification that allows the game to use more than 4GBs of vram even with dx9 it's part of the selling point of ENB. Even if i don't have a videocard with 4gb of ram, the ENB let's you use system ram, it's slower yes, but i can still play the game without crashing because of ram and vram limits.

This only works on Windows 7. On windows 8 and newer, ENB's workaround for the 32 bit ram limit doesn't work anymore.

Overall I have mixed emotions over the remaster.

I'm glad that the game is getting a few tweaks under the hood. The switch to 64 bit means that CTDs will be much, much rarer as the RAM/VRAM limit isn't at 3.1GB anymore. The switch to the DX11 renderer will also help out with the issues that this game has with resource management and utilization. Plus it means that VRAM doesn't have to be copied into main system RAM which means that I could probably run more script intensive mods. Its also nice to have some basic set of shaders to fall back on if I can't really be bothered with ENBs anymore.

However this is only beginning to address the massive amount of technical issues that Skyrim has. With the modified Gamebryo engine from Fallout 4 in use in this remaster, you still have the problems of shockingly bad resource utilization. There's really no good reason as to a game of this scale can only use two hardware threads well, and even then that's being generous to describe how well Skyrim uses multiple cores. The "physics" in the game loses its marbles once you go over 60FPS. The game also consumes what little VRAM it can access like mad as even a 2K texture pack will instantly consume up that 3.1GB of frame buffer you can use. Honestly i'm just convinced the game dumps all of its texture files into VRAM and starts to thrash once it eventually runs out.

I really wish Bethesda start working on a DX12 renderer with at least passable (can use 4 hardware threads well) multithreading support.
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is fallout 4 really that bad with cpu threads? is the skyrim really gona use the same thing, is that confirmed?

well it is free so either way you cant complain.

my views are that all the guys that made morrowind good are long gone after skyrim so im worried about the next full game and they are stalling time with this
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no improvement over original + mods
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I'd rather they focused this effort on building a proper new engine for future titles. If TES 6 is still on Gamebryo I think I'll slit my wrists.
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With this remaster, I think I might finally have to give Skyrim a shot
    
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