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Originally Posted by ChevChelios View Post

if Vega is released (cough*only in 2017*cough) for less then 1080 can drop in price, and that assuming Vega can beat it

.. and then 1080Ti stomps Vega redface.gif
yet only 480 gets praise

hypocrites rolleyes.gif

This is the pattern. We'll see a Vega (someday) that outperforms the reference 1080 in some random benchmarks. Of course, it won't OC, so comparisons to an OC 1080 will be made forbidden by AMD's marketing dept in reviews since the 1080 will then easily outperform it. nVidia will release the 1080 Ti and there will no longer be any issue (excepting in the odd AMD friendly benchmark at 4K that everfy AMD user will point to). Lather, rinse, repeat with numbers changed to 11X0. Lather, rinse, repeat..... This cycle has been like groundhog day.
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Ive never bought a Ti card, dont think Id start now

But you have no issues paying Ti prices for a mid-grade chip lachen.gif
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But you have no issues paying Ti prices for a mid-grade chip

GTX 780 was sold at this price 3 year ago and had same stock problem because it was so pouplar, why? Because it was the the 2nd fastest single GPU then(Oh and it run circles around 7970Ghz biggrin.gif).

Now you can pay the same price for the fastest single GPU in the world rolleyes.gif

Made up concepts such as "Ti price" or "mid-grade chip" will not stop people from paying top $$ for the fastest single GPU avaliable wink.gif While AMD fan boys keep making excuses to hide their envy wink.gif
Edited by sherlock - 6/15/16 at 3:07pm
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GTX 780 was sold at this price 3 year ago and had same stock problem because it was so pouplar, why? Because it was the the 2nd fastest single GPU then(Oh and it run circles around 7970Ghz biggrin.gif).

Now you can pay the same price for the fastest single GPU in the world rolleyes.gif

Made up concepts such as "Ti price" or "mid-grade chip" will not stop people from paying top $$ for the fastest single GPU avaliable wink.gif While AMD fan boys keep making excuses to hide their envy wink.gif

This is a terrible attitude to take.

So you're saying it doesn't matter that NV have massively inflated their prices as the 1080 is the fastest card around? I shake my head if everyone thought like you.

That's not how it used to work.
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Originally Posted by sherlock View Post

GTX 780 was sold at this price 3 year ago, why? Because it was the the 2nd fastest single GPU then(Oh and it run circles around 7970Ghz biggrin.gif).

Now you can pay the same price for the fastest single GPU in the world rolleyes.gif

Made up concepts such "Ti price" or "mid-grade chip" will not stop people from paying top $$ for the fastest single GPU avaliable wink.gif

For someone named Sherlock, you are not very insightful poke.gif

The fastest GPUS in the world used to be available for $500 just a few year ago rolleyes.gif

Staggering release of the top chip on purpose to milk the market is the only reason why you think the a mid-grade chip is the fastest single GPU available on the market. If there was actual competition in this market then Nvidia would have continued to release their big chips first just like every product launch prior to the 680.

Would you care to elaborate on how cutting down a large chip by 25-33% is a made up concept?

Either way, grats on your FE card. Seems Nvidia didn't price the card high enough for your tastes lachen.gif
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This is the pattern. We'll see a Vega (someday) that outperforms the reference 1080 in some random benchmarks. Of course, it won't OC, so comparisons to an OC 1080 will be made forbidden by AMD's marketing dept in reviews since the 1080 will then easily outperform it. nVidia will release the 1080 Ti and there will no longer be any issue (excepting in the odd AMD friendly benchmark at 4K that everfy AMD user will point to). Lather, rinse, repeat with numbers changed to 11X0. Lather, rinse, repeat..... This cycle has been like groundhog day.

Actually since GCN's introduction Fiji was the only chip that had terrible OC headroom. Tahiti OC'd like a champ, and Hawaii when paired with a cooler that could actually do it's job also OC'd decently. So no this is a very recent thing and has never been a cycle.
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GTX 780 was sold at this price 3 year ago and had same stock problem because it was so pouplar, why? Because it was the the 2nd fastest single GPU then(Oh and it run circles around 7970Ghz biggrin.gif).

Now you can pay the same price for the fastest single GPU in the world rolleyes.gif

Made up concepts such as "Ti price" or "mid-grade chip" will not stop people from paying top $$ for the fastest single GPU avaliable wink.gif While AMD fan boys keep making excuses to hide their envy wink.gif

Except these aren't made up concepts at all. Big die, medium die, and small die are all very real and tangible.

Also the last sentence is a bit asinine if I may say so.

But yes you're absolutely right, instant gratification and the pathological need (IMO) to have the latest and greatest means people will pay whatever nVidia asks. And as people gradually get priced out of their bracket, the situation will only get worse. (but I suspect some take twisted joy in the fact that as hardware become more expensive, they become more exclusive as well)
Edited by magnek - 6/15/16 at 3:36pm
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But you have no issues paying Ti prices for a mid-grade chip lachen.gif
I have no issue paying whats being asked for the top performing current GPU to get enough power right now to run a 1440p 144Hz monitor smile.gif

"mid-grade" or die size is 100% irrelevant to me, only fps in da games


I dont want to be stuck in the "hey guise lets just wait for Vega" boat smile.gif
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$150 for GTX 1060 and I'm in.
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And as people gradually get priced out of their bracket, the situation will only get worse. (but I suspect some take twisted joy in the fact that as hardware become more expensive, they become more exclusive as well)

Game developers don't cater to the minority of the player base, they would rather have a larger lower quality GPU player base. Having lower performance at the mainstream levels leads to lack of graphics innovation and intensity. doh.gif

It is these same idiots, with their desire to be a special snowflake, that continue to push prices up that are also the first to complain about low quality graphics from console ports biggrin.gif
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GTX 780 was sold at this price 3 year ago and had same stock problem because it was so pouplar, why? Because it was the the 2nd fastest single GPU then(Oh and it run circles around 7970Ghz biggrin.gif).

Wasn't the GTX780 the one that came out, was quickly beaten down by AMD and then Nvidia dropped the price by $150? I seem to remember they dropped the price so fast that there were reimbursements going out. lol. Using the 780 as an example really just shows that Nvidia has been price gouging for generations and the price will drop a bunch once competition comes along. No reason for the price to be this high except for Nvidia being greedy and their customers being retarded and somehow willing to dish out hundreds extra for no reason.
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