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Originally Posted by daviejams View Post

This card will easily cost over £1000 in the UK

Have you even looked these up? They're going for £619-£649. Ebuyer had stock of this card earlier today at £629.99. That's still a hefty hike.
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Originally Posted by Yvese View Post

That $599 price tag was such a nice bait and switch by Nvidia.

Well played once again by their marketing team. They got people salivating at that price point only to reveal it's non-existent and the days of $30-50 premiums for third-party cards are over. AIBs can now charge $100+ premium over MSRP for non-AIO cards.

What a time to be alive!

You mean like all the other manufacturers other than MSI?
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Originally Posted by L36 View Post

Hey guys remember how custom board cars would be priced at $599?

No one ever said custom PCB cards would be $599, AIB cards start at $599. The custom board cards have always been a little more (sometimes a lot more) that base MSRP. We have GTX 1080's from $599 and up as promised, none available in stock but that's another story in itself.

You are taking the worse case scenario, MSI pricing, and trying to pawn it off as the norm. Stop with the propaganda already.
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Originally Posted by bigjdubb View Post

You mean like all the other manufacturers other than MSI?
I don't think he was talking about MSI. wink.gif
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I don't like what MSI did with cooling solutions since they introduced their Gaming series with 6xx cards. They went cheap. It just doesn't perform as well as some other cards, from Gigabyte, Sapphire ...
post #15 of 108
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Originally Posted by SamTheJarvis View Post

Have you even looked these up? They're going for £619-£649. Ebuyer had stock of this card earlier today at £629.99. That's still a hefty hike.

That is actually a lot less than I thought - still absolutely ridiculous and no chance I would pay anything like that

Watch ebuyer - had terrible problems trying to return a 7970 years ago
post #16 of 108
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Originally Posted by Yvese View Post

That $599 price tag was such a nice bait and switch by Nvidia.

Well played once again by their marketing team. They got people salivating at that price point only to reveal it's non-existent and the days of $30-50 premiums for third-party cards are over. AIBs can now charge $100+ premium over MSRP for non-AIO cards.

What a time to be alive!

the Base EVGA ACX is $620 and Reference is $610, their pre-order sold out and will be in stock in a week or two.
http://www.evga.com/Products/ProductList.aspx?type=0&family=GeForce+10+Series+Family&chipset=GTX+1080
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Originally Posted by MuscleBound View Post

Still need SLI for smooth 4K gaming.

Or you can just stop using pointless 4XAA on 130-160 dpi 4K screens
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post #17 of 108
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Still need SLI for smooth 4K gaming.

This statement means nothing in itself. Hardware is becoming much faster, but software is also becoming more and more demanding.

Many cards that were beasts "back in the day" cannot handle perfectly smooth 1080p in AAA titles today.
Perhaps the day will come when single GPUs will be able to handle AAA titles in 4K & 60fps, then the next generation of games will come out that will be taxing them out and still not getting close to that.

Look into "Blinn's* law"
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in animation, rendering time remains constant, even as computers get faster.

An artist gets accustomed to waiting a certain number of hours for an image to render, so as hardware improves, instead of using it to save time, he employs it to render more complex graphics. This is why rendering time at Pixar has remained essentially constant over the past fifteen years.

Also, we have to take into account the irrational thinking of "all @ ultra or go home" of some gamers: 4K gaming vs 1080p is like having a built-in 4x MSAA...actually it is more demanding than that.
But then we move on and apply 4x or more of AA on the 4K, resulting into a more than 16x fold more demanding computation before large textures and before other effects over a vanilla 1080p. And then we add hairworks and PhysX and who-knows-what ontop of it, only 16x fold more demanding.

And then we make pompous statements: if the game runs faster than we thought = its underdeveloped...if it runs slower its not optimized or the hardware / gaming engine is crap...and the cycle continuous.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Blinn
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This seems to be one of the best custom 1080, too bad about the price mad.gif
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This seems to be one of the best custom 1080, too bad about the price mad.gif

How is this the best custom 1080? It doesn't seem any better than any of the other cards, FE included. We don't really even have reviews of the other custom cards yet.
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This seems to be one of the best custom 1080, too bad about the price mad.gif

Overclocking doesn't seem to be any better than the FE though. Basically MSI is charging the premium for a better cooler.
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