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nope, i dont see anything for Fury X vs 980Ti, same as ever


390X is just a 290X which is old already, so I dont expect more juice out of it
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post #72 of 108
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Originally Posted by EightDee8D View Post

i said "some of it" , because it gains some and looses some depending on game and res. wink.gif

although it's within margin of error, but whatever. we will see soon the gap between 390x and 980ti will get closer. tongue.gif

ah, yes you did. thumb.gif

still on my first coffee today. tongue.gif
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post #73 of 108
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nope, i dont see anything for Fury X vs 980Ti, same as ever


390X is just a 290X which is old already, so I dont expect more juice out of it
so you are saying stock vs stock furyx was always faster ? lol
its getting ot btw
Edited by EightDee8D - 6/14/16 at 5:27am
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As evidenced by what exactly, the one AIB that went over $699? There are plenty or other AIB's priced between $599 and $699. I guess if you choose to ignore all other manufacturers and just use MSI as your basis then yes, that myth is busted.
Look at prices in shops for any AIB. That's what I go by. The cheapest 10x0 is often some Flounder's Edition card and the rest goes up from there or the AIBs are almost the same price as FE but never something like $100 cheaper even the basic models.
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I already told you I'm not playing your game of making anything personal, sorry. And I've taken exception to people making statements like this many times. People make the statement that AMD will eventually catch up to Nvidia's numbers quite often yet you don't see me take exception. Why? Because it's the truth.
This is the only statement I have an issue with. Why is this? Because while your statement contains some truth, the way you present it as happening is simply not the truth. You talk about people being misled yet your statement does exactly that.

What you are trying to convey as happening suddenly is something that happens gradually over time and has more to do with AMD than Nvidia. It can be quite easily verified by referencing TPU reviews over the last few years as some of us have done. You can clearly see the trend of AMD inching up over time and eventually catching Nvidia. Nvidia's numbers don't move, AMD keeps going up.

The one thing we can agree on is that it would be a very smart thing for AMD to get this into marketing material and show people that it is happening.


AMD has been getting better. http://gpuopen.com/ thumb.gif


1080 has decent enough performance when boost stays high. MSI has a nice looking card.

The problem when comparing reviews is boost speeds.
Edited by Redwoodz - 6/14/16 at 5:42am
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post #76 of 108
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nope, i dont see anything for Fury X vs 980Ti, same as ever

390X is just a 290X which is old already, so I dont expect more juice out of it

What he's saying is true. You can see it reflected in TPU's testing over time.
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so you are saying stock vs stock furyx was always faster ? lol
its getting ot btw
No, AMD had a LOT of room to improve with it's drivers, nvidia didnt. They already had mature drivers with their maxwell cards.

People said the same thing back during GCN vs kepler, that nvidia was slowing down old cards. Turns out that, nope, AMD just finally unscrewed their own drivers and finally caught up to nvidia 3 years later.

If AMD wrote their drivers the way nvidia did, then the 7970 would have been faster then the 680 at launch. but it took AMD years to get the full performance out of their card, at which point maxwell came out. Fury is the same deal, it takes AMD a long time to mature their drivers, it takes nvidia a much shorter time to do so. What you are seeing now is fury where it should have been at launch.

Regardless, the MSI 1080 has good temps and is quiet, but at that price it just isnt going to sell, as long as the $620 EVGA ACX 1080 exists. the card just isnt THAT good. Shame pascal seems to hit a serious OC wall.
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You mean like the $609 EVGA GTX 1080?

http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=08G-P4-5180-KR

Yeah, it's not $599.99 ... but then again, it's a lot cheaper and closer to the $599 number than this MSI card.

Except it's not a custom board is it?

It's just a reference board with a different blower cooler on it.
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Except it's not a custom board is it?

It's just a reference board with a different blower cooler on it.
It's a custom blower on a standard PCB, using the $599 price as a base.

$10 more gets you a custom cooler and custon PCB.
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No, AMD had a LOT of room to improve with it's drivers, nvidia didnt. They already had mature drivers with their maxwell cards.

People said the same thing back during GCN vs kepler, that nvidia was slowing down old cards. Turns out that, nope, AMD just finally unscrewed their own drivers and finally caught up to nvidia 3 years later.

If AMD wrote their drivers the way nvidia did, then the 7970 would have been faster then the 680 at launch. but it took AMD years to get the full performance out of their card, at which point maxwell came out. Fury is the same deal, it takes AMD a long time to mature their drivers, it takes nvidia a much shorter time to do so. What you are seeing now is fury where it should have been at launch.
agree but it's still a better situation than not optimizing at all. i mean if they never did that, 7970 would be still behind 680. but its not. ( btw i never said nv is slowing down their hw)

i guess it's a glass half filled/ empty situation. depends on how you see it.

but i think it has more to do with their hardware being in consoles. they get optimizations till end. that's translating into pc drivers. that's why they don't get as much optimizations on 3 year old games as they do with newer games.
Edited by EightDee8D - 6/14/16 at 6:16am
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