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Fall 2017 for 6 teraflops?
While the GTX 1080 is available NOW at 9 Teraflops.

You want a $1,000 Xbox?

Actually I might like it if they did make one, but it would have to be a system designed with the express goal of running games at 4K 120hz.
And that's a software goal as much as a hardware goal, but I'll put up the money if that's what needs to happen to get me there.

I've said it a bazillion times now, there is almost no game design on the market today that can't be done at 4K 120hz even with just modest hardware. The only reason extra high resolution and framerate aren't standard is that publishers like "cinematic" screen captures for advertisements.
Games running at a lightning fast framerate can't be demonstrated in TV ads, special effects can, and the unfortunate reality is that most games play worse because of it.

Moving forward developers really should be aiming to have a "smooth gameplay" mode alongside all the crazy shaders and such that publishers seem to require for screenshots.
Give me a "core" mode with stripped graphics and maximum display specs and I'll be a very happy camper.
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Somewhat impressed how MS has turned around the X1.

Clearly, the Neo will come out sooner since the X1.5 looks like a reaction. Besides Sony want games compatible with Neo by the end of the summer.

Interesting...

I think Sony and MS are shooting for the cellphone-esque upgrade cycle. They CAN get away with it if they stick to similar x86-64, APU with hUMA design.

This also means AMD will have some APU business for quite a while.
the PS4 sales give the very clear message to Sony & Microsoft. Console gamers dont want those add on controller or motion crap.

They want raw power.

This is a good thing, because at least now PC wont get held back way too much.
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I'm surprised at all the praise for this thing on overclock... Consoles are a waste of money... They'll be outdated in a year with no possibility for upgrades. I'm also skeptical of it's ability to run 4k next year for a reasonable price. A 4k pc is no less than a grand right now and that's with poor components and a 1080... That will BARELY run 4k at 60 fps.
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I'm surprised at all the praise for this thing on overclock... Consoles are a waste of money... They'll be outdated in a year with no possibility for upgrades. I'm also skeptical of it's ability to run 4k next year for a reasonable price. A 4k pc is no less than a grand right now and that's with poor components and a 1080... That will BARELY run 4k at 60 fps.

Except they're not if you value the exclusive titles they provide, albeit the Xone isn't so valuable now since all their exclusives seem to be coming to PC now. A 1080 will run 4k @ 60fps fine if you dont turn on resource hogging settings with little real gain in visual fidelity.
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I'm surprised at all the praise for this thing on overclock... Consoles are a waste of money... They'll be outdated in a year with no possibility for upgrades. I'm also skeptical of it's ability to run 4k next year for a reasonable price. A 4k pc is no less than a grand right now and that's with poor components and a 1080... That will BARELY run 4k at 60 fps.

I fail to see how a platform that provides games that cant be played anywhere else and often use the hardware in ways that third party titles dont (there are barely any pc exclusives that make proper use of the pc hardware), can be considered worthless.

Truth is, if it werent for consoles, the pc wouldn't have the majority of games we have now. Witcher 3 wouldnt of happened if it wasnt for consoles, the devs said it themselves.
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I fail to see how a platform that provides games that cant be played anywhere else and often use the hardware in ways that third party titles dont (there are barely any pc exclusives that make proper use of the pc hardware), can be considered worthless.

Truth is, if it werent for consoles, the pc wouldn't have the majority of games we have now. Witcher 3 wouldnt of happened if it wasnt for consoles, the devs said it themselves.

The earlier posts all say that all XBox games will no longer be exclusive. Also, I've never had a game drive me to buying a console.

Edit: I've also found most ports to be either terrible or the mechanics limited due to the lack of power of consoles (i.e. being unable to zoom in/out).

Edit2: I've been gaming on a PC for 20 years. You could make the same argument about a PC. Doom, Quake, Unreal... Those games didn't come out on a console first...
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If this console does legitimately play games at 4k natively, what would it do if you hook it up to a 1080p TV? Which most people currently have? Will it render in 4k still or will it go the other route of 1080p/60FPS?

I can imagine a lot of console users buying it, just to plug it into a 1080p TV and thinking they'll greatly benefit from 4k. tongue.gif
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The earlier posts all say that all XBox games will no longer be exclusive. Also, I've never had a game drive me to buying a console.

Edit: I've also found most ports to be either terrible or the mechanics limited due to the lack of power of consoles (i.e. being unable to zoom in/out).

Edit2: I've been gaming on a PC for 20 years. You could make the same argument about a PC. Doom, Quake, Unreal... Those games didn't come out on a console first...

But these game would not be getting made if it werent for the xbox. The pc platform would not be getting these games if a console version didnt exist.
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Man all I know is that Sony wont like the chance that new Xbox will be stronger than the Playstation. I really want some news from Sony about the new console. I really believe they postphoned it and it was normally supposed to come out in September.
SO far all games are coming to PC. But remember by PC I mean Windows 10.

If I sell my Xbox One will I be able to play my Xbox One Games on PC? That's the only reason I'm keeping it tbh.
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If I sell my Xbox One will I be able to play my Xbox One Games on PC? That's the only reason I'm keeping it tbh.

Not current game.
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