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I am selling my Sony W800b since I want a better LED TV for gaming and I want a gaming monitor, I won't be buying a new TV until Jan 2017 so in the mean time I will have to use a monitor for console gaming. I also play PC games, Planetside 2 I can run on 1440p but I prefer it on 1080p because I get more FPS and I can notice the difference, gameplay feels more fluid and faster.


Planetside 2 max settings (not willing to go below max graphics settings but I turn shadows off)
1440p DSR 60-90fps

1080p 75-120fps

I will probably buy the 1080GTX when they have a TI version so that will probably be around April 2017 and I won't be buying a new ultra wide monitor until Oct-December 2017 so either way, I am gonna have at least 6 months to play on 1440p since by that time I will beable to get more FPS with the new GPU/Upgrades.

Focusing on now, would it be bad if I played at 1080p on a 27 inch 1440p monitor? Would it look worse than a native 27 inch 1080p screen? On of the major issues I have is the G-Sync 1080p 27 inch monitors I have seen all only have 1 Display port 1.2 input, I know you can get input converters but I don't wanna be switching it so often whenever I wanna play console or PC games.

What would you recommenced?
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Try it yourself and see tongue.gif

I play a ton of Planetside 2, and personally I would sacrifice other settings WAY before I would run at a non-native res. The scaling artifacts look terrible to me, while turning down a setting or 2 in-game other than lighting or textures barely has any visual impact.

In other words, running a nonnative res just to keep "max" settings seems counter-intuitive to me, as it's not max at all.
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Try it yourself and see tongue.gif

I play a ton of Planetside 2, and personally I would sacrifice other settings WAY before I would run at a non-native res. The scaling artifacts look terrible to me, while turning down a setting or 2 in-game other than lighting or textures barely has any visual impact.

In other words, running a nonnative res just to keep "max" settings seems counter-intuitive to me, as it's not max at all.

I know but the resolution is most likely gonna have the most impact on my performance but I will test it tomorrow, it is on custom ultra settings (edited the user settings ini file for higher settings) so I will try it with high settings without editing the ini file.

I don't know why so many people are so against playing at the non-native resolution, it is still a 16:9 panel so I think it should scale correctly. Probably gonna go with the Acer XB271HU if I do get a 1440p screen.
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Try it yourself and see tongue.gif

I play a ton of Planetside 2, and personally I would sacrifice other settings WAY before I would run at a non-native res. The scaling artifacts look terrible to me, while turning down a setting or 2 in-game other than lighting or textures barely has any visual impact.

In other words, running a nonnative res just to keep "max" settings seems counter-intuitive to me, as it's not max at all.

I know but the resolution is most likely gonna have the most impact on my performance but I will test it tomorrow, it is on custom ultra settings (edited the user settings ini file for higher settings) so I will try it with high settings without editing the ini file.

I don't know why so many people are so against playing at the non-native resolution, it is still a 16:9 panel so I think it should scale correctly. Probably gonna go with the Acer XB271HU if I do get a 1440p screen.

It scales, it just looks blurry. You'll see when you try it yourself.

The in-game render quality setting is a good way to scale it down if you must. I used to do that when playing on another rig at low settings, and it looked better than the monitor's scaling to me.
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Focusing on now, would it be bad if I played at 1080p on a 27 inch 1440p monitor? No, its not going to hurt anything. Would it look worse than a native 27 inch 1080p screen? Yes.
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Focusing on now, would it be bad if I played at 1080p on a 27 inch 1440p monitor? No, its not going to hurt anything. Would it look worse than a native 27 inch 1080p screen? Yes.

How can you be so sure it will look worse than a native 1080p screen? I don't see why it would since both screens can scale correctly to have an aspect ratio of 16:9 or 16:10.
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How can you be so sure it will look worse than a native 1080p screen? I don't see why it would since both screens can scale correctly to have an aspect ratio of 16:9 or 16:10.
Firstly, 1080p and 1440p are both 16:9, so no aspect ratio shifting there. thumb.gif

Second, it'll look terrible because either hardware or software will need to calculate fractions of a pixel. frown.gif

Running 1600x900 on a 3200x1800 screen looks fine, because it's a simple multiply by two. So four pixels behave like one. When you've got a 1.333333... multiplier... you can't have 1/3rd of a pixel. So it has to interpolate what that pixel would be.

It often depends on the monitor. My old Dell 2405's would run non-native resolutions without looking like total rubbish (in fact, 10 years ago, it often felt like "free" anti-aliasing, it was that good) but my Dell 2311 does scaling extremely poorly. It makes text absolutely unreadable. I expect that it has something to do with the hardware scaler built in... there are different techniques (linear, cosine, cubic, nearest neighbour, etc...) so the method used will have a lot to do with how bad or good it looks when scaling a lower resolution to a higher one on a TFT. smile.gif

...

I'd get a 1440p screen and turn other settings down accordingly, but you say you're not willing to do that. Up to you. wink.gif Anti-aliasing can be one of the first things turned down when running 1440p on a 25-27" diagonal.
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it'll look terrible because either hardware or software will need to calculate fractions of a pixel.7.gif
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I have a couple different 1440p gaming monitors, side by side ... An Acer IPS and a ROG Swift ...

I've experimented with playing 1080p on them and it honestly does not look bad at all. Were I playing and "immersed" and not consciously switching back and forth between 1440p and 1080p? I don't think the differences would bother me.

1080p doesn't look quite as sharp and there are the obvious spatial differences between the resolutions, but it's not what I would call "horrible." If I had a game that only worked well at 1080p? I would have no issue at all playing 1080p on my 1440p screen.

I have the GPU power to do 1440p at maxed settings on just about anything I can think of though and so I've only experimented.

But no ... it's not too bad and yes, there are slight degradations in texture sharpness, etc.
    
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Try it out yourself. This is kind of a subjective matter. Some people are totally fine with none native resolutions and others are not.
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