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I'm sick and tired of air cooling and all that dust that accumulates inside and outside of my case as well as big and cluncky piece of aluminium on my cpu. I will be using CLC or AIO in my new build with 6700K or 6800K and Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX case. It will look and feel cleaner but I still believe that I can manage to get quiet CLC or AIO and don't go air cooler solution.
    
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I'm sick and tired of air cooling and all that dust that accumulates inside and outside of my case as well as big and cluncky piece of aluminium on my cpu. I will be using CLC or AIO in my new build with 6700K or 6800K and Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX case. It will look and feel cleaner but I still believe that I can manage to get quiet CLC or AIO and don't go air cooler solution.

Dust? There's a filter in front of the Evolv ATX. What I mean is, if you're really afraid of dust, staying aircooled or going watercooled won't change anything.

About the Evolv ATX and noise, I can't speak for this precise model but I made a build in an Evolv ITX, and the front is known for being too restrictive : it means trying to get quieter (whatever solution you come by) will be defeated by the fans having to run faster to get enough air...

Anyway, the sight of a big chunk of aluminium is a matter of taste ; if you can't bear it, well... Wish you luck for choosing the right AiO CLC. Kraken X61 looks good, never seen and heard one IRL though.
     
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I'm sick and tired of air cooling and all that dust that accumulates inside and outside of my case as well as big and cluncky piece of aluminium on my cpu. I will be using CLC or AIO in my new build with 6700K or 6800K and Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX case. It will look and feel cleaner but I still believe that I can manage to get quiet CLC or AIO and don't go air cooler solution.

Youre going to get dust ANYWAYS. Even if the intake fans are filtered its going to get dust because a filter that keeps 100% of dust out would also need high cfm and high static pressure to combat the filter just to get a decent amount of air in. If you have positive pressure then its possible but youll still get dust no matter what haha.
    
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Dust? There's a filter in front of the Evolv ATX. What I mean is, if you're really afraid of dust, staying aircooled or going watercooled won't change anything.

About the Evolv ATX and noise, I can't speak for this precise model but I made a build in an Evolv ITX, and the front is known for being too restrictive : it means trying to get quieter (whatever solution you come by) will be defeated by the fans having to run faster to get enough air...

Anyway, the sight of a big chunk of aluminium is a matter of taste ; if you can't bear it, well... Wish you luck for choosing the right AiO CLC. Kraken X61 looks good, never seen and heard one IRL though.

Ok man, thanks!
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Youre going to get dust ANYWAYS. Even if the intake fans are filtered its going to get dust because a filter that keeps 100% of dust out would also need high cfm and high static pressure to combat the filter just to get a decent amount of air in. If you have positive pressure then its possible but youll still get dust no matter what haha.


Sure but now we''re talking about dust PARTICLES not ACCUMULATION of dust. I'm fine with some dust particles and I'm fully aware that is almost inevitable. I will sleep in that room so.... you got the point anyway smile.gif

I would LOOOOVE to do a custom loop but I'm afraid that I will make some serious mistakes + it costs like hell + it takes a regular maintenance(this, btw would not be the problem) + to be honest I really don't know much about all those fittings, tubes, pumps and radiators. All that I know is that all those PROPER built custom loops look so damn fine and out-of-this-world and then in my head raises the question : Is all that maybe too much of a hassle and cost over, let's say, some good CLC or AIO in terms of raw performance?smile.gif
    
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Custom Watercooling sets are starting at 135€: http://www.aquatuning.de/water-cooling/kits-und-systems/internal-kits/?p=1&o=3&n=12&f=68%7C412

That link goes right to the homepage lol.

Its true that cpu kits are pretty inexpensive compared to aio/clc solutions, where it becomes expensive is when people do it more for form over function ie looks over actual temps. Mine with a cpu/gpu is about 530€ and water temp has a delta of 5-6°C which is considered enthusiast cooling.

However if i did hard tubing, with fancy coolers and fancy colors and what not would be a bit more. But for me function is far more important.
    
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Strange, can`t link it directly.

watercooling -> internal-sets -> filter Manufactorer for Phobya and Alphacool and you will see all custom sets.

Well, if you need a GPU cooler, a CLC is usless. If you like to cool only the CPU, you can get a custom loop for a good price. But the most people who buy a custom set, like to get more and more :-) Its cool, its funny and it looks much better than every CLC oder air cooler. biggrin.gif
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I'm quite amazed how quiet is this CLC
    
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The sound of a CLC is going to rest almost solely on the fans. Pump noise might vary from brand to brand, but they all seem to have pretty quiet pumps. I have a Corsair and cannot hear the pump at all, even when I try. The fans, on the other hand, are loud at max RPM, but that's going to be the case with any fans that run over 2000 RPM's. So, the trick is to find a radiator that cools efficiently enough that the fans don't have to run at over, say, 1200 RPM's. For silence, you want the largest radiator you can fit into your case. If you can fit a 360, go with a 360. If you can fit two 360's, get two of them (not possible with a CLC, though). The bigger the rad, the lower the RPM at which your fans have to run. It's simple.

Copper is more efficient at transferring heat than aluminum. However, copper is a much more expensive metal than aluminum, so you're going to pay extra for it. Moreover, only the "custom" CLC's typically have copper/brass radiators (EK, Swiftech). All of the other brands will usually have aluminum rads.

If you know for SURE that you only want to cool your CPU and won't ever need to cool the GPU, then go for a Corsair H115i or the NZXT Kraken X61. If you can fit a 360 rad, then go for something like Thermaltake's Water 3.0 Ultimate. if you want a CLC that can be expanded to cool a GPU, go with the largest Swiftech model that you can fit. It has a pump that is strong enough to expand to at least one GPU.

A custom loop just for the CPU is silly unless you just like wasting money.
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I would like to get one of those Swiftech H320X2 Prestige but in Europe they have very limited supplies so.... Of course there are almost none video review of those new Swiftech AIO's which is a shame really. On the other hand, for Corsair H115i I've seen many good reviews, it seems that 95% of all H115i customers are really satisfied with that product.

Personally, I like clear tubes for AIO/CLC, I like the looks of it but Corsair's fine too. EKWB Predator is a great one in terms of raw performance but it's pretty ugly looking AIO for that price. I don't know, so many options...
    
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