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I think we are expecting too much from RX 480.

That's why am going with the performance of 390X/980. If its better then am more happy.
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Maybe the designs aren't final?

it might be the other way around, theres no reference cards so to speak, they'll let the AIB design it themselves.
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That's why am going with the performance of 390X/980. If its better then am more happy.

GTX980 is still a very fast card that many people never got to have. I think this card is going to come ~ 390 level. New games probably faster then 1080.
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or maybe microsoft lied about the performance because that sounds precisely like the total performance of a 480 and cpu combined... and its an xbox.

They did say 8 CPU cores (specifically CPU cores) and the 6 TFLOPS is compute (I'll bet it is *overall compute*) and that doesn't necessarily translate to 6 TFLOPS of usable GPU. Remember it's AMD, and they're not the best at translating that raw compute into realized gaming performance. They're great, just not the best.

I also don't know why they are talking about 4K gaming on that hardware. It's not going to be any better than 4K/30fps. Who the hell will get excited about that? They simply translate today's 1080p (900p, 720p) complaints to 4K.

Now 1080p is going to be awesome on that, with console optimized games. I will give them that.
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They did say 8 CPU cores (specifically CPU cores) and the 6 TFLOPS is compute and that doesn't necessarily translate to 6 TFLOPS of usable GPU. Remember it's AMD, and they're not the best at translating that raw compute into realized gaming performance. They're great, just not the best.

Well its relative to Xbox One which is 1.2 meaning you are getting 5 times faster GPU. Its similar jump as 360 to One.
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PS4 came out in the autumn of 2013 and it used GCN 1.1, just like hawaii, that was also released around the same time. Scorpio is 1 year away or so, there is a good chance it uses some future Radeon architecture that is also 1 year away from being released.

RX 480 has advertised 5.5 Teraflops compute and 2304 cores. Xbox Scorpio is advertised at over 6 Teraflops compute for just the GPU. Sounds like basically 10% more performance cores which is around 2500. Microsoft probably asked for higher binned 480's for Scorpio

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Scorpio almost certainly uses a custom APU that will never be released for PCs, just like the XB1 and PS4 APUs. Its performance has effectively nothing to do with the Polaris that we'll get, other than that 6 TFLOPS is possible with some configuration of some version of GCN (probably) while fitting console TDP/power limitations.

The GPU in the Xbox One and PS4 was respectively a 7790 and 7850 equivalent. Literally given the compute numbers released.

Microsoft is trying to one-up Sony this time by asking for higher end Polaris 10 chips whereas it looks like PS4 Neo is using Polaris 11 Chips that have about 4 Teraflops of compute. This escalation thing is really annoying especially since it's still relatively early in both console's development cycles and they are trying to play a spec game where you rebuy consoles every few years for more power.
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Vega comes out in about four months.
nah
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RX 480 has advertised 5.5 Teraflops compute and 2304 cores. Xbox Scorpio is advertised at over 6 Teraflops compute for just the GPU. Sounds like basically 10% more performance cores which is around 2500. Microsoft probably asked for higher binned 480's for Scorpio
The GPU in the Xbox One and PS4 was respectively a 7790 and 7850 equivalent. Literally given the compute numbers released.

Microsoft is trying to one-up Sony this time by asking for higher end Polaris 10 chips whereas it looks like PS4 Neo is using Polaris 11 Chips that have about 4 Teraflops of compute. This escalation thing is really annoying especially since it's still relatively early in both console's development cycles and they are trying to play a spec game where you rebuy consoles every few years for more power.
I highly doubt the XBone One will be using higher binned 480s. It will almost certainly be a very large and updated APU.
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I think Vega will have two version. 490 with GDDR5X competing with 1070 and 1080 and one with HBM2 competing with the upcoming Ti.
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So you think the 8GB model is going to cost $300?

a HOF/K|NGP|N/Lightning RX480 8GB will without a doubt cost $300, even more so if some insane AIB does a liquid cooled version of it.
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