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I'm installing Windows 10 home clean on my new PC build from the Windows USB thumbdrive. I normally do a full format with a new HDD to A) check and mark bad sectors and B) stress test the new drive at the same time.

Is there a way when preparing to install Windows 10 to select a full format, or does it force a quick format?
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I'm installing Windows 10 home clean on my new PC build from the Windows USB thumbdrive. I normally do a full format with a new HDD to A) check and mark bad sectors and B) stress test the new drive at the same time.

Is there a way when preparing to install Windows 10 to select a full format, or does it force a quick format?

There should be an option to turn off quick format just like any other windows installation. Im guessing youve already installed/registered w10 and are now looking to do a clean install? Or you bought a w10 key?
    
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I bought a new copy of Windows 10 home which comes on a USB thumbdrive. I'm preparing to start the installation on my new pc build but for some reason I thought I remembered reading years ago how one of the newer Windows didn't allow the choice of a full format during initial install. I could be mistaken about that though. I just wanted to be prepared for what my options will be once the install thumbdrive boots up and Windows prepares to install.

Right now I'm typing on my old PC.
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I bought a new copy of Windows 10 home which comes on a USB thumbdrive. I'm preparing to start the installation on my new pc build but for some reason I thought I remembered reading years ago how one of the newer Windows didn't allow the choice of a full format during initial install. I could be mistaken about that though. I just wanted to be prepared for what my options will be once the install thumbdrive boots up and Windows prepares to install.

Right now I'm typing on my old PC.

I did a clean install on mine few months back so i dont remember too well but i do believe theres an option to uncheck the quick format option. Someone else might be able to chime in.

Honestly though if the drive is brand new theres really no point in doing a full format but to each his own. Like i said i do believe you should be able to.
    
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I see lots of conflicting information about quick vs full, even on this site. Some say a full format doesn't write zeros. Some say it does. Some say it doesn't check and mark bad sectors. Some say it does. Some say you don't need to do it for a new drive. Some say you should to stress-test it and mark the bad sectors. Some say 2TB could take 1-2 days. Some say 8-10 hours.

I don't know what to believe. I'll be installing a fresh copy of Windows 10 on my new 2TB drive tomorrow, and I still don't know if I should do a full format or quick format. I don't mind waiting for the full format if it's 8-10 hours, and not 1-2 days. My CPU is a Skylake 6700k if that makes any difference. Also I like the idea of it marking bad sectors right away and plus if the drive is bad and likely to fail right away this should be a good stress test for it.

Any thoughts? Also, should I format my 2TB OS drive in GPT or MBR? Does Windows 10 even give the choice or does it automatically select the right option?

Also, is there any benefit to splitting my drive into 2 partitions? Some say the OS will run smoother on a smaller partition instead of a full unpartitioned drive (short stroking). Is this still true with Windows 10?
Edited by miles17 - 6/22/16 at 6:43am
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Step 12 or 13 from this link should answer if you can format or not: http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/1950-windows-10-clean-install.html
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Actually that just makes things more confusing honestly. I have the retail Windows 10 USB thumb drive with the retail key. I bought the retail package from Amazon with my new PC parts.

I'm just trying to figure out what my options are for full format vs quick format, GPT vs. MBR, and if it's beneficial to have more than one partition on my new 2TB drive (is it better for the OS, and does it make it easier for defragmenting the OS and programs, for instance, with all my small emulator files, etc. on a separate partition?).
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I'm installing Windows 10 home clean on my new PC build from the Windows USB thumbdrive. I normally do a full format with a new HDD to A) check and mark bad sectors and B) stress test the new drive at the same time.

Is there a way when preparing to install Windows 10 to select a full format, or does it force a quick format?
I'm not sure it does full format the slow kind but dunno why you would do that.
I just delete all partitions and then continue, it creates all partitions it needs itself and formats them.

I'm not sure which format it uses, probably quick. I don't think you can force it in the installation to do full or quick but I think you can open console or tools during or before installation and do the format yourself.
There is tricks like shift+f10 or just clicking repair in the menu to get there, there you could run format on the drive you want with what ever params you like but then it's still better to let the installation create all the partitions because there are so many of different sizes and types, it's not like Win95-XP where it all was just 1 partition.

Learned the hard way, do not split HDDs into 2 partitions etc. worthless and a bother.
GPT for sure, not the old MBR, also install in UEFI mode not legacy.
Edited by JackCY - 6/22/16 at 2:47pm
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Thanks for the advice. I'll definitely do GPT then. Does Windows 10 select GPT by default or do I have to manually select it? And does it select UEFI mode or do I have to select that manually also? I want to make sure I don't accidentally skip past those options during install.

For full format, I'm just used to doing that whenever I first get a new drive to A) check and mark bad sectors and B) stress test it early on so I don't get any unexpected surprises a couple weeks into owning the new drive once I start installing software on it.

As far as multiple partitions, I read that having all the OS files and program files spread across an entire large drive mixed in with other files creates more work for the mechanical drive and results in a decrease in performance. I also figured that since I run emulators and there's tons of tiny little files required, it would be a lot less work defragmenting the OS drive if I keep all those smaller files in a secondary petition rather than having tens of thousands of small files on the OS drive. But splitting into two partitions might not be the best idea which is why I'm asking for opinions.
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Thanks for the advice. I'll definitely do GPT then. Does Windows 10 select GPT by default or do I have to manually select it? And does it select UEFI mode or do I have to select that manually also? I want to make sure I don't accidentally skip past those options during install.

For full format, I'm just used to doing that whenever I first get a new drive to A) check and mark bad sectors and B) stress test it early on so I don't get any unexpected surprises a couple weeks into owning the new drive once I start installing software on it.

As far as multiple partitions, I read that having all the OS files and program files spread across an entire large drive mixed in with other files creates more work for the mechanical drive and results in a decrease in performance. I also figured that since I run emulators and there's tons of tiny little files required, it would be a lot less work defragmenting the OS drive if I keep all those smaller files in a secondary petition rather than having tens of thousands of small files on the OS drive. But splitting into two partitions might not be the best idea which is why I'm asking for opinions.

Yea def look up how to do gpt and UEFI it can be tricky. Honestly to me theres no difference but supposedly UEFI is better for the newer GPUs.
    
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