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The 1035 with any modest overclock will wipe the floor against the 4300 at any speed. Its more like a dual core with hyper threading than a true quad alao the fx needs a lot more MHz to match the IPC of Thuban.

it is not like a dualcore with hyperthreading, not at all.

in games that work with quadcores and dualcores, Ive cut the cores before and it performed much worse.


its just a crappy quadcore, that is all. AMD went FAR south when they made the bulldozer/piledriver series


I would be absolutely FLOORED if they came out with a sort of Thuban 2.0

can you imagine thuban with more L2 and L3, a 3GHz NB, and 4-5GHz clocks right out the gate? would be fantastic!!
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The 1035 with any modest overclock will wipe the floor against the 4300 at any speed. Its more like a dual core with hyper threading than a true quad alao the fx needs a lot more MHz to match the IPC of Thuban.

They are full quad cores and Vishera outclasses even a Thuban. The problem with th 4300 is that it's only a quad core. An FX6300 is a far better chip and the 8xxx's are pretty good CPU's.

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people mistake the dual instructions L1 for it being a chopped quad. if people only were to read the quad data channel in L1 they would see its still 100% a quad core.



I liked my fx4300, but the issues I was having with my specific chip are not worth the current effort.

this 1035T is running like a darn champion, just got stable past 340MHz FSB/HTT
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I know its a quad core but it DOES NOT perform like a quad core, hence why I said "like". The FX4300 is outclassed by the quad core Phenoms and the FX6300 is outclassed by the Thubans. The only TRUE upgrade from either are the FX83xx and above.
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This is my 980 BE on air. Did someone say FX-4300 outclasses it? I don't think ANY FX-4300 even on water will come close. Vishera at equal thread count is inferior to Stars unless clocked MUCH higher (1Ghz+).

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K10 vs Piledriver same clocks in many games https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D8Bn56D0V0

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Thuban vs Vishera same clocks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D8Bn56D0V0

That's Deneb not Thuban. Why compare quad core vs 8 core?
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That's Deneb not Thuban. Why compare quad core vs 8 core?

And yet, in real life games, most of the times the charts that have been posted in the forum, show the Visheras beating the AM3 Phenoms, be it Thubans or Denebs. In my experience, without NB overclocking, for non games, the Vishera needs about 300Mhz more than the Thuban to be equal (i had both 1090T and still have 6300. I gave away the 1090T. In x264 they were practically on par). It could be that new games are coded to run better on Vishera. Also Phenoms, lack some instructions.

Example: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)










http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Phenom-II-X6-1090T-vs-AMD-FX-6300/m417vs1555

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/699?vs=146
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In my opinion it is better coding for vishera,but phenomII lacks many new instructions that are used in modern day applications. IMC on fx CPU's are also better.
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I know its a quad core but it DOES NOT perform like a quad core, hence why I said "like". The FX4300 is outclassed by the quad core Phenoms and the FX6300 is outclassed by the Thubans. The only TRUE upgrade from either are the FX83xx and above.

Regardless of its performance it's still a quad core. A Lada is a car, the fact that you run a very high risk of being barbecued by it doesn't change what it is. Nobody here is contesting what you're saying and you're right, the only real upgrade from Phenom to Vishera are those delicious 8xxx's but for someone on a tighter budget those six core 6xxx's are also a good alternative.

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