Originally Posted by FlawleZ
I know its a quad core but it DOES NOT perform like a quad core, hence why I said "like". The FX4300 is outclassed by the quad core Phenoms and the FX6300 is outclassed by the Thubans. The only TRUE upgrade from either are the FX83xx and above.
That's nonsense. I've run plenty of K10 quads and K15h quads. A Deneb clocked over 4 GHz is competitive with an Piledriver quad if you're not using any AVX, but a Deneb is never going to "outclass" an FX-4300 unless the FX-4300 is running at stock and the Deneb is heavily overclocked.
I have a few Deneb chips lying around. If they were better than my 870K, I would use one of them. But they're not even competitive with the 870K, granted that it's a Steamroller and therefore has higher IPC than an FX-4300.
A 1035T is usually a better choice than a 4300, but only because it's overclockable and has six cores vs. four. I ran a 1035T in my primary rig for about a year in the 2012-13 time frame. Got it up to 3.7 GHz with on 1.45v. Great CPU. I replaced it with an FX-8350, but really didn't need to.
Originally Posted by mattliston
in older applications, a phenom quad clocked the same as an FX quad will perform nearly the same from the keyboard side of things. benchmarks are GARBAGE GARBAGE GARBAGE to use as a comparison for day to day uses.
EDIT past the days of single threaded performance? no way dude. Id rather have a quadcore sitting around 4GHz than an 8 core sitting around 2.5 or 3GHz
Correct on both counts. Especially that Cine 11.5 that he was using as a basis for comparison. Cine 11.5 can't even handle the CMT architecture of a K15h CPU properly; it was released before Bulldozer came out. I have Cine 11.5 benchmarks showing a stock 8350 barely beating a 1035T at 3.7, but in the real world on multithread apps, the 8350 spanks a 1035T.
You'd rather have the fast quad for everyday tasks over a slow octocore. For rendering/encoding or server applications, the 2.5 GHz octocore is the better choice. For almost anything else, take the 4 GHz quad. Or save your pennies and get a Vishera so you can just have a 4 GHz octocore.