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Actually I am leaning towards grabbing a 1090T or 1100T for the unlocked multiplier.

I think I would be absolutely stoked to have a Phenom 6 core running over 4GHz

plus the only FX 8 cores I would consider grabbing is an 8350 or a 9590, and they go for more money than is worth the performance. Maybe if I found one for 50-80 bucks. Which wont be for a few more years, if at all

the only freaking downside to phenom/thuban? on my asus board, AM3 only unlocks ram to 1600. requires bus clocking to get higher, and I just got a 2133 ram set of 4x8gb. Plus found out tRAS is limited to only 30 on this board (latest BIOS) so Im actually running the ram closer to 2100 so I can keep memtest happy from throwing fits after a 12 hour test

I have several 4.4ghz capable X 6 thubans which are better than most out X 6's of that generation , they are great chips, but the 8 core piledrivers are better.
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post #32 of 46
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when I talk about daily use, why do you bring up xeons?

Of course there are workoads out there that want more slow cores than a couple fast cores.



That isnt the point I am making.


There is a market out there that can take advantage of 100 separate physical cores. Still wont make browsing the internet and watching videos any faster at all.

Unless Im foolish enough to open 2500 tabs lol

It's called an example.

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I know its a quad core but it DOES NOT perform like a quad core, hence why I said "like". The FX4300 is outclassed by the quad core Phenoms and the FX6300 is outclassed by the Thubans. The only TRUE upgrade from either are the FX83xx and above.


I have pretty much identical rigs. One with an 1100T and one with a 6300. I have used both of them extensively at identical clockspeeds and in no way shape or form does the 1100T outclass the 6300.
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The 1035 with any modest overclock will wipe the floor against the 4300 at any speed. Its more like a dual core with hyper threading than a true quad alao the fx needs a lot more MHz to match the IPC of Thuban.


The 4300 a dual core with hyper threading? That's nonsense and it has been stated time and time again here from people with more knowledge than you or I will ever have.
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I know its a quad core but it DOES NOT perform like a quad core, hence why I said "like". The FX4300 is outclassed by the quad core Phenoms and the FX6300 is outclassed by the Thubans. The only TRUE upgrade from either are the FX83xx and above.


How does the 4300 not perform like a quad core? And it would trounce a Phenom. You do mean a Phenom II correct? Stop saying a 6300 will get trounced by Thubans because it is patently false.
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I know its a quad core but it DOES NOT perform like a quad core, hence why I said "like". The FX4300 is outclassed by the quad core Phenoms and the FX6300 is outclassed by the Thubans. The only TRUE upgrade from either are the FX83xx and above.


How does the 4300 not perform like a quad core? And it would trounce a Phenom. You do mean a Phenom II correct? Stop saying a 6300 will get trounced by Thubans because it is patently false.

My 8320 at stock feels far smoother in desktop use and performs spectacularly better than my old 955BE OC'd to 3.5. I never have luck with hardware and always seem to get the worst.

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In older applications phII will have higher score's, but in modern days applications that use's new instructions set's (avx,avx2,fma3 sss3...) it simply won't stand a chance.
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In older applications phII will have higher score's, but in modern days applications that use's new instructions set's (avx,avx2,fma3 sss3...) it simply won't stand a chance.

Benchmarks and their numbers don't tell the whole truth. My PC simply feels far more responsive than when I used my 955BE, something a lot of people even with Intel hardware claim.

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Yap you're wright about responsiveness,and not only that don't forget that fx line,and new athlon line, also have better imc than phII line. PhenomII will simply lag badly in modern applications (lack of new instructions).One more thing games that's bin ported from consoles are developed on wery slow amd cores but those cores have variety of new instruction's that are not present on phII but are on amd new cores!
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There is no reason to get 8350, when any 83xx can overclock to 4.5Ghz. I have 8320 and have passed IBT AVX at 4.5Ghz. I have 8300 and have brought it to 4Ghz at only 1.26v (that's less than stock voltage for 8350), so most likely it can go to 4.5Ghz easily.

Agreed; for the money I too say getting an 8350 vs one of the lower models is really spending more than you'd need to.
Not too long ago I got myself a 8370 and it turns out to be a poor clocker, my 8320 is waaaay more friendly about going up than it is.

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In the US, i read people often finding 8300 for 90$. When FX goes EOL in a few months, i expect something like this: 4300: 40$, 6300: 60$, 8320E: 80$. And i mean unused chips.

I bought 2 of these recently, the last was indeed bought 2 weeks ago for about $110 US shipped but when I checked the egg and was browsing just yesterday I saw that the prices had jumped up almost half-again that much!
I guess this is the beginning of the phasing out of this gen and I say that because these fluctuations in price always begin before these chips start disappearing for good - Happened with Socket 939 and saw it with the Phenom II line (Don't know about AM2/AM2+, I was never interested in those sockets to pay attention biggrin.gif).

However if FX chip prices drop I'll be all over that if possible and I do have a chip model or two I'd like to get yet.
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